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--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Lakshmi Narasimhan" 
<nrusimhan@xxxx> wrote:
> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
> Dear Shri Vishnu,
> Your post was wonderful. It exactly reflects our sampradayam as per 
> the views of our Acharyas. Just one question/clarification.

Dear SrimAn narasimhan,

kindly forgive me for my blabberings.

By upAsanA, I meant kAmya worship only and not any ArAdhanam, ritual, 
or some other act done in the mood of kainkaryam or in the mood of 
acquiring knowledge.. I said "we are not supposed to do any upAsana 
but involve in kainkaryam" in my prev mail.

adiyen rAmAnuja dAsan
Vishnu

> 
> > In fact, we are not supposed to do any upAsanAs.
> We can do upAsanAs. Shri Ramanujar in fact insists that the upAsanA 
> phase(Dharma Jignyasa) should exists in one's life cycle. But, whom 
> do we worship through such upAsanA, should an upAsanA be done as a 
> means for something or should it be done after realizing the 
> swaroopam are the subjects of discussion. As per our sampradayam, 
> upAsanA must be done only to Lord Sriman Narayana and that upAsanA 
> must be done to make him happy, and not expecting any boon or 
miracle 
> or help back from him. There are people who perform Sudharshana 
> Yagnyam etc, saying that it is for the welfare of the family of the 
> person who performs it. That very intent is not recommended by our 
> sampradayam. If the same yagnyam was done as per the karma kandam 
i.e 
> the dharmam, since these dharmams(vedas) are defined by the lord, 
by 
> doing these we make him happy and hence, the sampradayam itself 
> supports it.
> I guess what you meant was those upAsanAs that are "Kamyartham" i.e 
> that are done for one's benefit.
> 
> Please feel free to correct me if I were wrong.
> 
> 
> Dear Sukumar,
> > With this, can we deduce Savithramandala madhyavarthi as 
> > Srimannarayana.
> 
> Yes. What you have said is correct. Dhye sadha savithru mandala 
> madhyavarthi Narayana sarasija asana sannivishtaha.. Keyuravan 
magara 
> kuntalavan kruteehaari hiranmyavapuhu dhruta "shanka chakraha" -> 
Is 
> very much the Surya Narayana.
> 
> In fact, we have to do all our dharma karyams as per the Vedas. And 
> via those karyams, we show our gratefulness to the inner 
controller, 
> i.e the paramatma and make him feel happy by doing what he has asked
> (not expecting anything in return though). That is why, when we say 
> the manthra devata, we attach the paramatma too i.e
> Savita Devata Paramatma Devata
> Shri Mahavishnu Paramatma Shriman Narayano Devata
> etc. This is to mean, we do the upAsanA to the devata and through 
> that devata in turn to the Paramatma who is the actual controller 
of 
> that devata. So, pretty much everything in this world could be 
> worshipped, provided the worship is done to the inner controller, 
the 
> omni-present lord. And for those, who cannot worship in such a way, 
> it is better to stick to the Lord's particular form i.e for Ex: 
> "Sa Shanka Chakram Cha Kireeda Kundalam 
> Sa Peetha Vashtram Cha Rasirugekshanam 
> Sa Haara Vaksha Sthala Shobi Kausthubham 
> Namami Vishnum Sirasa Chathur Bhujam"
> [The one who has the Conch shell, the mighty Discus, the Crown and 
> the Rings, the Beauty Yello dress, the Kausthubam beed! I bow and 
> worship that Vishnu, the one with the Four Hands]
> 
> Adiyen,
> Ramanuja Dasan





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