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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

Dear Soundar,

> Why would you instruct the TV to do things?? That has always been
> the issue right from the beginning. If the Lord created all of us
> for his own enjoyment, leela Vibhuti.. etc, why should the
> Lord give us tonnes and tonnes of instructions??

Because I have the power/shakthi to creat ANYTHING. It is my court 
and I'm the judge and everything lives for my happiness. Replace I by 
ParamAtmA. The LOrd gave us the shAsthrAs,without our asking Him,so 
that we would know about Him. The shAsthrAs only say that "we are His 
servant and doing service to Him is our essential nature". But our 
nature is not to listen to Him or others! We immediately question the 
other person "Are you a great vEdhANthin? Who are you to preach me?"
ShAsthrAs are one way of catching us! 

You can refer to SVB 70-72. The salvation is ONLY by His grace. Then 
the next question would be "Is jIvAtmA the Beneficiary?". NO. It is 
the Lord. We are His property and He is the one who feels happy about 
our re-union. 

After I reach vaikuNTam(nam kUraththAzhvAn caraN kUdiya pin),on the 
assumption that I depart before you do,I will tell the Lord that "I 
need to make a Universal call to Soundararajan and tell him about 
Your mind!" and let you know about the "paravAsudEvan and His 
activities in vaikuNTam". I guess it must be pretty similar to or 
exactly the same as expressed in SrivaikuNTa gadhyam!


> Again, why should he use words like, "Sathyamte", or
> "Ma sucah", "asamsayah", etc. Well, these are plain
> simple samskrit words. Logically, how can the doer
> blame the instrument for what is being done?? If this
> issue is answered, I am sure my mind will be free. I
> think this question is the summum-bonum of all the
> issues with respect to the position of the Jeeva, be
> it free will, Nirhetuka Kripa etc.

Do I blame my TV if it doesn't work? NO. But at times,we may give it 
a kick,then it starts functining. Or we may listen(instead of 
watching) to the TV,as the TV's picture tube is gone and now it 
serves as the radio! Or, sometimes the picture/screen quality is so 
bad that everybody(hero,heroine and villain) looks the same! I may 
use TV non-stop,that the picture tube may burst one day! Is it TV's 
fault? NO. I have mis-used it. I didn't take care of my TV. 
Or "knowingly" I'm doing it. Will you be able to write a post if you 
didn't have hands? Can a person talk if he is affected by aphasia
(loss of speech)? Don't break your head too much! Just keep it cool. 
You will catch the point,when the time comes. ThoNdaradippodi 
AzhvAr,as vipranArAyaNan, was going behind dEvadEvi and only after 
the Lord's grace fell on him,did he leave her completely and become 
an "AzhvAr". Since we are His property,He is the one Who has to take 
the initiative and work towards the same!!! 

> With respect to being a TK and all, it is His
> will that I am born in a Thennacharya sampradaya
> family. Lets try not to look at it as a TK vs VK
> dispute, it is a healthy argument on the philosophical
> differences between Nirhetukam and Sahetukam. It is
> dangerous to accept that since we are TKs, our
> philosophy is the most superior. It fails to satiate
> our logical and analytical minds. 

It is not dangerous to accept that since we are TK's(not by birth but 
by holding the views and following the same!),our philosophy is 
superior. What is dangerous is to try to enforce it on others! A 
change in oneself or in others is possible only by His grace. Do you 
question your mother asking her "are you my mother? how?" Or,do you 
go for some DNA test to verify the same? Ofcourse,one can do DNA test 
and prove who the mother and father are! Wrt God,it is a matter and 
question of faith. You can't prove faith/love(human beings/God) by 
logic because the former completely defies logic. Faith or love is a 
feeling which can not be expressed(completely) by logic nor the mind.

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
NC Nappinnai 







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