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 A small correction to the following post. The (upper) TriVarnathars 
sport Punul. ThiruKachiNambigal gives us sevai with Punul. Without 
knowing the aspirant's kulam we may be jumping into hasty conclusion.
Dr. K. P. Sarathy

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Varadarajan S (CTC)" <varada@xxxx> 
wrote:
> 
> Swamin,
> Adiyen would like to clarify a basic principle here.
> Wearing a (PUNAL) is no where related to SriVaishnavisam.
> This is the clear case of getting confused between 
brahminisam and
> Vaishnavisam.
> People who take birth in a brahmin family need to undergo 
upanayana
> samskaram and have to wear the PUNUL after this.
> They then get the right to learn and propagate Vedas. But 
being a
> brahmin is not a requirement to be a Vaishnavaite.
> There are so many Brahmins who do not belong to Vaishnavisam.
> People who may be born in any caste, creed or religion but 
follow
> Sriman Narayana/Sri Mahalakshmi and other Alwars and Acharyas 
by "HEART",
> not alone by lips are SriVaishnavites.
> After adoring to vaishnavisam, they dont even look at the 
other demi
> gods or other gods.
> 
> But this is not the case with a brahmin, he adorns to any god 
that
> is extolled in the vedas.Eventhough Vedas explain the ultimate 
Brahmam as
> Lord Sriman Narayana, still in the course of its path it expains 
about so
> many demi gods and other gods. Brahmins accept all these gods.
> 
> The underlying principle is, Brahmins are born not made but
> Vaishnavaites are made not born as Vaishnavaites.
> 
> In Alwars, Nammalwar, Thiruppanalwar, Thirugamgai Alwar and
> Kulasekaralwar are not Brahmins. In acharyas Thirukkachi nambigal, 
Maraneri
> Nambigal, Pillai urangavildasar are all well known Non-Brahmin
> Srivaishavaites who do not Adorn any "THREAD" accross their 
sholders. 
> 
> Adiyen hopes you are clear that wearing a Thread no way is 
related
> to Sri vaishnavisam.
> 
> 
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
> Varadaraja Dasan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Topics in this digest:
> > 
> > 1. thread ceremony-a small doubt
> > From: "srinivasterakanambi" <srinivasterakanambi@xxxx>
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:38:22 -0000
> > From: "srinivasterakanambi" <srinivasterakanambi@xxxx>
> > Subject: thread ceremony-a small doubt
> > 
> > Dear Bhagavatas,
> > 
> > my humble pranams to you. i have a friend by name Sreejith. He is 
a 
> > Keralite by birth, and they do not have the concept of PUNAL. But 
> > this fellow is an exceptional case. He is very interested in Sri 
> > Vaishnavism. He wishes to wear a thread (PUNAL). With great 
> > difficulty, he has acquired permission from his parents for this. 
He 
> > is asking me for further procedures. So, I request the learned 
> > Bhagavatas to give valuable suggestions to go about further. 
Please 
> > do show him the way to proceed, from whom can he get the PUNAL 
worn, 
> > and where. Please help my friend to join the Sri Vaishnava 
community. 
> > 
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Srinivas Terakanambi.
> > 
> > 
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> > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
> > 
> >





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