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srI:
srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha:
 
Why adiyEn mentioned about giving prasAdam to others was, anyway there will surely be people who dont practice EkAdasi. So the Lord's prasAdam can be given to them. Everyone practices only in the ideal case. Not the practical case. Of course there may be people who are in the ideal case also. vratams like saturday, sravanam etc are not recommended since they are also supposed to bring karma. However, From whatever little adiyEn has heard, EkAdasi is recommended.
 
Also, adiyEn is quite confident that pUrvAchryAs would have practised EkAdasi properly. adiyEn thinks that whatever pUrvAchAryas have done is perfect and is above our comments. pUrvAchAryas anushtAnams are more important than even the vEdas. If there are some aspects of sampradaya where our pUrvAchAryas anushtAnam slighly deviates from vEdas, then we should take only pUrvachAryas as authority and not the vedas. (pUrvAchAryargaL pOdham anushtAnangaL - URM). If they have followed, then there will surely be a proper logical explanation to this question. Just that adiyEn dont know what it is. :)
 
adiyEn thinks that this is a very technical question. adiyEn will ask some scholars when there is opportunity and let this group know. adiyEn request the elders to help out with this question.
 
However, there ARE exceptions also where pUrvAchAryAs have given some special comments. One of them adiyEn remembers is given below:
 
"Once ParAsara Bhattar's mother (AndAL) had fasted on vaikunta EkAdasi day and asked Bhattar for perumAL theertham on dwAdasi. Bhattar asked her: Where did you find EkAdasi in the midst of periya thrunAL?" The explanation is: During adhyayana utsavam, we are supposed to do service to the Lord and enjoy. If we dont eat, we may not be able to do the service properly. Bhattar suggests that emperumAn's kainkaryam is above all else.
 
 


 
On 6/24/06, Guna Venkat <gunsee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sri:
Adiyen wish to intervene and get myself clarified with some of my basic doubts,
initally I wish to query the objective of the vratham , if its for some purushArtham like attaining more knowlede on Him, or attaining abode or controlling our physics/chemisstry of the dheham
 
Let we take the case of top 2 attaining more gnAnam or even attaining him , here our sampradayam is very clear by No way or these are no means of attaining Him een against our swaroopam too , let we take it that we follow that as our elders follow , agreed then think about the case of His prasadam , now I see a height of negligence that we wont take His prasdam and we will give it some one else ,
 
This looks like non appreciation of Archa Moorthy at our divya desam or any temple even our Athu Koil Alwar , He is same every where and thats His prasdam , all the vrathan we follow (as per earlier para) is for getting a kainkaryam at His thiruvady and on getting the same what more you need ? I am surprised . Thats the reason why our poorvAcharyas never dwelt too much on the Akaram or any vratham etc , because these are dheham sambanda vishayangal and non Athma sambandam and for our Athama He blesses with his Krupai and thats His Job too and so what ever you do to take care of dheham is only for a particualr time period and its not reklevant afterwards .
 
If you choose to have vratham for any medical advises or dieting its totally differrent science and let we take it offline
 
So Adiyen's request is to conside His prasdam as the top most and never ever show any negliegence on that on any day ,
Though I have seen the cases of both negligence and adoption to the core in our temples adiyen prays to Him for blessing us with the mind of adoption to the core
 
Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
Guna


varadha rAmAnuja dAsan <varadha.ramanujadasan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

srI:
srimathE rAmAnujAya namaha:
 
Obviously, ekAdasi is meant for all of us and not for him. He can be offered his usual offerings. Some people claim that taking prasAdam is ok. But thats not right. Actually the concept is that on all days we are supposed to be taking ONLY prasAdam. So fasting on EkAdasi day obviously means fasting from everything (which includes prasadam - rice that is offered). When adiyEn asked this to a scholar, he mentioned that there are levels of vrata. (Nirjala, jala, phala etc). One can a level choose that suits his level of practice and should follow it strictly and try to reach next higher level over a period of time. But what about prasadam that is offered to the Lord? Wasting it is also a sin. That prasadam can be given to people who are at the level of taking that prasadam (old people, people who are not well et al). People who are young and fit should necessarily try to follow nirjala EkAdasi (NOT taking the Lord's prasadam also). To reach that level, they can take prasadam like fruits (again that should also be necessarily ONLY prasadam -it should first be offered to the Lord). adiyEn has heard a full lecture by velukkudi swami (30 mins) on the importance of eating ONLY prasadam.
 
kshamikka prarthikkirEn.
 
adinAyEn,
varadha rAmAnuja dasan.


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