Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Vishnu, I think I fairly understand your thoughts:-)Cf. Swami nampiLLai's words! TK philosophy is very simple but we get confused and confuse others also. When everything goes by nirhEtuka krpa, the act(or non-act) on the jIvAtmA's part shouldn't affect His decision. Otherwise we would be negating Him(logical fallacy)as the First Cause. That's why in the case of bharata, it didn't fructify b'coz perumAL had different plans and hence bharata had to go back with pAduka only. While in the case of lakshmaNa(even though he disobeyed the Lord's words,infact this is observed in swami AzhvAn also...he didn't listen to what emperumAnAr said wrt asking Lord Varadhan for something!)perumAL was happy with lakshmaNa coming behind Him. When the jIvAtma realizes that nothing belongs to it including that nothingness, it's a pathetic(don't take in a literal sense but positive)and wonderful state. If we have to contribute something, we will be contradicting "mayarvaRa mathi nalam aruLa peRRa AzhvArgaL" which is a building block of our sampradAyam and we all know what swami periyavAccAn piLLai told swami dEsikar. Swami azhagiya maNavALa perumAL nAyanAr expresses in AH nammAzhvAr's mind "I didn't do anything;perumAL entered me and did everything". sarvam srIkrshNArpaNam astu AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai > Dear Smt Jayashree, > > When we discuss in a forum, the questions and answers are addressed > to all. Otherwise I could have sent a personal mail! > Then where is the question of our contributing something on our own? > That is what I am trying to bring out. You dont have to answer if you > dont wish! > > Dasan > Vishnu ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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