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Dear Ms Nappinnai,

I think this is descending quickly into "my response is
to this statement which was in response to ..." - I think
it is best we drop this :-).

> My response was to Sriman Krishnaswamy's(with rajan_s id) post 


adiyEn was not stating on my own that sEshatvam is 
("might be") destroyed. I was only quoting what pUrvAcharyas 
have said and what latter day acharyas have coommented on 
them. Mumukshuppadi says clearly "azhikkum pOdhu" and all 
commentaries that I  have seen and heard on this state that 
this refers to sEshatvam. One member in this forum said that 
this means that simply the bhAvam is destroyed. I do not buy 
that argument, as it sounds like the jIva is trying to fool 
the Lord. All examples used for this - such as Azhvar 
asking the Lord to massage his other feet, etc - indicate 
that the role reversal is complete.

If sEshatvam alone is destroyed, then it is against the
nature of the jIva. However, if that brings out 
pAratantriyam, then it only means that the "ellai nilam"
of sEshatvam has been brought out. That means, the jIva
shines at its brightest in being a sEsha to the Lord. I
think this has been discussed plenty in this forum. So,
I am not sure I am adding anything new here.

I would be interested to hear what your interactions with
other acharyas and scholars indicate. So, please do keep
us posted if you can.

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 
> You mentioned in one of your post that sEshatvam gets destroyed
> (please generously forgive me if I misunderstood your writings). 
But 
> it is not so. One devotee's reply confirmed that which coincided 
> with Sri Sridhar Srinivasan's post as sEshatvam is the essential 
> attribute of the soul. He also said that "that's why Sri 
> KuraththAzhvAn was sent to Sri ThirukkOtiyUr nambi for 
> verification". SEshatvam is always there in the background. This 
> topic is so subtle that no matter how many mails we exchange we 
> would further introduce non-clarity. So, I am going to stop with 
> this as I am having personal interactions with Sri Chinna Jeeyar 
> swamiji and some devotees along these lines. If I added some more 
> confusion thro' this post or misread your post, pardon me.
> 









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