Dear Ms Nappinnai, I think this is descending quickly into "my response is to this statement which was in response to ..." - I think it is best we drop this :-). > My response was to Sriman Krishnaswamy's(with rajan_s id) post adiyEn was not stating on my own that sEshatvam is ("might be") destroyed. I was only quoting what pUrvAcharyas have said and what latter day acharyas have coommented on them. Mumukshuppadi says clearly "azhikkum pOdhu" and all commentaries that I have seen and heard on this state that this refers to sEshatvam. One member in this forum said that this means that simply the bhAvam is destroyed. I do not buy that argument, as it sounds like the jIva is trying to fool the Lord. All examples used for this - such as Azhvar asking the Lord to massage his other feet, etc - indicate that the role reversal is complete. If sEshatvam alone is destroyed, then it is against the nature of the jIva. However, if that brings out pAratantriyam, then it only means that the "ellai nilam" of sEshatvam has been brought out. That means, the jIva shines at its brightest in being a sEsha to the Lord. I think this has been discussed plenty in this forum. So, I am not sure I am adding anything new here. I would be interested to hear what your interactions with other acharyas and scholars indicate. So, please do keep us posted if you can. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan > You mentioned in one of your post that sEshatvam gets destroyed > (please generously forgive me if I misunderstood your writings). But > it is not so. One devotee's reply confirmed that which coincided > with Sri Sridhar Srinivasan's post as sEshatvam is the essential > attribute of the soul. He also said that "that's why Sri > KuraththAzhvAn was sent to Sri ThirukkOtiyUr nambi for > verification". SEshatvam is always there in the background. This > topic is so subtle that no matter how many mails we exchange we > would further introduce non-clarity. So, I am going to stop with > this as I am having personal interactions with Sri Chinna Jeeyar > swamiji and some devotees along these lines. If I added some more > confusion thro' this post or misread your post, pardon me. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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