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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sriman TCA Venkatesan,
           You have misunderstood my standpoint. So, let me make it 
clear(atleast from my side).

> I was quoting Nappinnai's note on doing things for
> His pleasure (or displeasure as she mentioned :-))
> and wondering how it fit into her line of questioning
> on the 'action' of the jIvatma.

My response was to Sriman Krishnaswamy's(with rajan_s id) post 
wrt "paratantram is making oneself ready so as to deserve His 
krpa...". I didn't pose a question wrt sEshatvam and pAratantryam in 
the first place. I only asked wrt "making oneself ready". This 
addresses the issue of sahEtukam/nirhEtukam and 
freewill!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here ends my question.

I am neither good in thamizh nor english but Smt Jayasree 
Saranathan's post says,"It is He who gives buddhi to those whom He 
wants to lift...". Sri piLLai lOkAcAryAr makes it very clear 
that "pApa and puNya are weighed in His eyes and not ours". I don't 
know(What I heard could be wrong or may not be authentic!!!)but 
duryOdhana tells srIkrshNa that "you're the one who instigates me to 
do such acts...". Those who are experts in mahAbhAratam can correct 
me.

You mentioned in one of your post that sEshatvam gets destroyed
(please generously forgive me if I misunderstood your writings). But 
it is not so. One devotee's reply confirmed that which coincided 
with Sri Sridhar Srinivasan's post as sEshatvam is the essential 
attribute of the soul. He also said that "that's why Sri 
KuraththAzhvAn was sent to Sri ThirukkOtiyUr nambi for 
verification". SEshatvam is always there in the background. This 
topic is so subtle that no matter how many mails we exchange we 
would further introduce non-clarity. So, I am going to stop with 
this as I am having personal interactions with Sri Chinna Jeeyar 
swamiji and some devotees along these lines. If I added some more 
confusion thro' this post or misread your post, pardon me.

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai











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