Vishnu, There is a small story that my grandpa used to tell me. There was a believer and a non-believer. The believer used to say all is due to god only. They had a bet on one petty issue and the non-believer said now logically this should happen this way and that is god's will no. believer dint open his mouth. the issue happened the other way. Now the non guy told the believer said see now tell me where is your god. BELIEVER QUITELY SAID, NOW SEE HE WILLED IT THE OTHER WAY, WHICH WAS NOT LOGICAL ACCORDING TO YOU. HE USED YOU AS A TOOL TO DO IT THE WAY HE WANTS. You should understand this swatantriyam is nothing but ignorance. Dasan/raghavan vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > > So free will should no to surrender fully with senses. > > Paratantryam should be sought with self will. > If we seek pAratantryam out of our will, how is it pAratantryam? Dear Vishnu,probably there exist(!)two pAratantryams,for those who believe in freewill and those who don't believe:-) We can atleast improve our english vocabulary(if not knowledge in our sampradAyam) by playing with words like this! > Dasan > Vishnu azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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