Well, We have independence(swa). Using that independence(swa), if we give up that very independence then that is pAratantryam(dependencde). adiyen, rAmAnuja dAsan --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@xxxx> wrote: > > --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan@xxxx> wrote: > > > > Samin, > > > > Independence is there and free will is there for all of us. That is > the sensual > > reality part of our lives. > > > > Go deeper, you find that all is by his will. > > Then where is independence? > > > > >> > > So free will should no to surrender fully with senses. Paratantryam > should be sought with self will. > > If we seek pAratantryam out of our will, how is it pAratantryam? > > Dasan > Vishnu ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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