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Swamin,
 
We need not worry, what the lesser developed souls will do. We cannot be 
thinking
what will happen if they will take advantage of this arguement. 
 
See it is very clear that Paramatma is everything. We are born as willed by 
him. We donot have the choice of parents. It is only the subtle soul that 
controls this entire
drama called life.
 
By sadana the jivatma, gets the knowledge. Now people may ask, I want to be 
Ramanuja
why am i not able to be? Why is it that I go behind women and wine though I 
want to 
lead a pious life? Now where is SWATANTRYAM? The swatantryam of the Jiva is also
able to act only with the will of GOD and paratantryam.
 
Hope this clarifies.
 
Dasan/raghavan

vtca <vtca@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Sriman Vishnu,

I get the feeling that you are driving toward the idea
that shedding free will or accepting sEshatvam is also
His act and not ours.

In which case, here's my question: if a soul does not 
accept its sEshatva nature or claims it is a swatantra
(and most of us qualify for this) - is that act one of
free will of the jIvAtma or not? I am sure you see my 
concern here. Everyone will then justify every act of 
their's as that of the paramAtma's.

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan


--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@xxxx> wrote:
> Now I will ask you one question. The free will or swAtantyram is 
shed 
> out of our free will or not?
> 
> Dasan
> Vishnu
> 






azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam



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