Sri: Dear Smt Sumithra, adiyEn's praNAms. The question here is: "if the kid refuses", is that refusal an act of the Lord too? If so, how is the kid responsible for his faulty behaviour? This is what is being implied by many posts in this group. Hence my question. Elsewhere, Nappinnai writes: "Even if another person behaves badly, or things go wrong, it will have the mindset to think that everything is His grace." This is easy to digest when it is directed toward one's self. But if we witness an act of misbehaviour by a person toward the Lord, or worse, toward a bhAgavata, do we say that it is by His grace too? I think there are lots of questions here on what exactly is nirhetukam and whether the jIva owns any act or is it all the Lord's? adiyEn is reading an article by mahAvidwAn PBA Swami on the concept of nirhetukam. I will try to translate it as best as I can and post it here soon. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan > Like a mother holding the > hands of a kid and writing a letter on the paper and then > praising the kid for writing correctly emperuman does > everything and grants us moksha. But if the kid refuses > to write at all then the mother either scolds, advices or > sometimes even beats to make the kid write. That is what > emperuman also does. The kid has no free will it is > governed by the mother similar is the case of all > jeevatmas who are none other than the kids of the divine > supreme lord. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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