Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha Srimath Varavara Munaye Namaha Dear Sri.Soundararajan swamin, Kindly accept adiyen's pranams. Adiyen read your mails with much more interest than most of the mails in this forum. Swamin's focus and input on our sampradhayam are much needed boost to elementary level students like me. However, adiyen beg to differ with you that our sampradhayam is in a bad state. Adiyen for once feel confident that our sampradhayam is in a strong state. However, the 'true membership' has dwindled. Adiyen wish to present three points. 1. What is our bench mark to evaluate the state of our sampradhayam? One belongs to Srivaishnavam if one's objective is Moksham (eternal bhagavath kainkaryam) and moksham only. If someone is not with that objective how can we say that they belong to our sampradhayam? In this light, the experience swamin had with that lady, singing about a baba or dhabha, she obviously is NOT interested in moksham and interested in other materialistic things. How can we say that she belongs to our sampradhayam? These 'askthika nasthikas' should simply be ignored as 'moorkas'. Why do we even evaluate our sampradhayam based on these people? If this is our bench mark, yes our sampradhayam is in a bad state. It is unneccesary for me to say that no one becomes a SriVaishnava by birth, whatever is the family background. After going through the samsaric cycle for many many births and deaths, through bhaghavatha sambhandham one gets acharya sambhandham. And eventually acharya sambhandham leads us to maha viswasam and finally to Emberuman sambhandham. And all this happens by His nirhetuka krupai only. Adiyen would view that lady's state as some one who is in lower rung of this ladder and pray to Emberuman to make her move faster. But I am not going to evaluate our sampradhayam based on her, becuase there are billions like her. 2. Why are we in the state we are now? Swamin raised a question that why can?t our acharyas stress that we should worship ONLY Sriman nArAyaNA and nobody else. But, it is beyond doubt and with absolutely no uncertainty that our acharyas have stressed this point. However, this message is not well circulated amongst us. That is becuase our poorvacharyas vyakyanams and exceptional works are in a state not easily understandable by present generation. For example, how many of the younger generation today would even dare to open and read one page of 'Edu' and try to understand? This is where the success of ISKCON is obvious. Sri.Prabhupadha made 'all' of their sampradhaya messeges so easily available in simple english. Adiyen personally know many many gaudiya vaishnavas follow that sampradhayam becuase it is presented to them in an easier way. There is a set of books called ?Eettin Thamizhakkam? (meaning Edu in simple Thamizh). These books are written by a scholar about 30 years before and published by University of Madras in a set of 10 volumes and provide ?Edu? in a simple Thamizh style. However, this is not available any more. During my last trip to India, I had to do lot of digging in University book store to trace some of the volumes of this book. I found few volumes with total damage lying in a corner of the room on floor, where as mundane novels are protected in moisture proof containers. That is the state of our sampradhayam. So, our focus must be on bringing in to light these kinds of works more and more to lime light and strengthening our foundation. May be even that lady would change. 3. Why are we still arguing about our internal differences? Any sampradhayam is bound to have different view points. As long as the fundamentals and final objective are the same, these differences in approach and practice must be viewed in a healthy and positive way with mutual respect and cooperation. However, even today in our sampradhayam, I see elders twice my age from both the schools try to score victory over the other as if this is a contest. If today?s elders realize that even after one life time, they could not dissolve the differences, at least they need not pass it on to the next generation. May be over a period of time these differences will die themselves. I don?t want my grand son or grand daughter to be still classified as some ?kalai? instead of simply SriVaishnavas. Swamin, kindly accept adiyen?s apology for any apacharams. It is not my intention to prove a point or anything. Adiyen personally feel that if Emberuman could choose even some one like me to surrender unto him unconditionally, our sampradhayam is not in any danger. Even though I am an elementary level student, I am not young. I am almost 40 (half the well is crossed) and still in a beginning state. May be that is the state of our sampradhayam. Regards Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Sampath Kumar Padmanaban Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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