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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Venkatesh,
You have put forth the views of TennAchAryas very succinctly.
If any reader grasps the points of your post,he/she has understood 
the TK philosophy. But even for that HE has to give a green signal.

> Nice question. The answer is, I do not know about
> others, but atleast I am sure I do not possess such
> high virtues. But true to our poorvAchAryA's words, if
> we are to believe that we are just slaves of emberumAn
> and all our actions are controlled by him, I would say
> even the non-performance of these nitya karmas by the
> chEtanAs is also driven by Him. Just take this case, I
> am not in temple doing any service, neither am I
> learning divya prabhandhams at my house, at a

Very true. People who are thorough with mahAbhArata,can correct me(I 
read it in my teens and now being more than a decade,my memory power 
could have deteriorated for sure). When the Lord goes to duryOdhanA 
to resolve the issues between kauravAs and pANdavAs(to avoid the 
battle),duryOdhanA tells KrSNA that it's HE,who is residing in 
duryOdhana's heart,who prompts duryOdhanA to do such acts. When 
everything belongs to Him,where is the question of saying I have to 
do something as even kainkaryam. I'm writing this post because HE is 
the driving force. DO I have any autonomy? If HE says 
that HE is the manas in BG,where is the question of the individual 
doing/not doing anything without His approval/permission. Somewhere 
in Chapter 11 of BG(visvarUpa darsanam),KrSNA tells arjunA that the 
latter has no agency of action independently willed by himself and he 
is just an instrument of the Divine.


> I would say first of all, even to think that WE have to do
> something, is against what our AzhwArs and AchAryAs
> have told.
> I can only say that I have told the truth and
> it is upto emberumAn's grace to make the chEtana do
> what he is doing.
> He does not come before us and say that He is pleased. Practical.
> I have only reproduced the words of our poorvAchAryas in
> this matter. I know it is diffcult to accept this. But
> the fact is, it should be.

Very beautifully you have expressed pUrvAchAryAs works in layman 
words. This is a very delicate and subtle point to be understood. 

solbavan kaNNan,seibavan kaNNan;"what did you bring,what are you 
going to take and what's yours that you grieve over,arjunA?" says the 
Lord.

AzhvAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam
nappinnai







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