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Swami Vijayaraghavan,
                                 While I concur with the idea, I don't agree to 
the fact that we have to cite Vivekananda who is in no way connected to our 
Sampradaya. He is one of the prominent proponents of Mayavada. Swami ManavALa 
mAmunikaL's words spring to my mind, "AzhwArgaLayum aruLicheyalgaLayum tAzhvA 
ninaippavargaL dhAm naragil vIzhwArgaL enru ninaithu nenjE eppozhudhum nee avar 
pAl senranuga koosi thiri". 
 
                                 Given the fact that we don't have a pausity of 
achAryAs in our sampradayam, I personally feel there is no need to quote or 
cite anybody from other sampradayas, especially mayavAda. My personal opinion, 
kindly excuse for anything offensive.
 
Dasan.

Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Vimal kumar swami,

It is not Mayavadha. If you see the report even a 
great soul like Ramakrishna said "HE IS IN YOU, IN ME
INFACT EVERYWHERE".

He dint say "I AM BRAHMA YOU ARE BRAHMA"

Dasan/raghavan
--- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> It is indeed sad to see Mayavada being gloriously
> discussed in the Sri Vaishnava forum following
> Ramanuja Muni. 
> 
> Sivaramakrishna Mandapati <srimsrk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:Dear Bhagavathas
> 
> this information is very good......
> 
> thankyou very much
> 
> jai srimannarayana
> 
> vijay.iyengar@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Dear Bhagavathas,
> 
> All are creations and evolutions of God.
> The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of
> meaning.
> 
> All are incarnations of God, even us too.
> We all are his creations as a part of
> Maya Leela. 
> 
> I was once reading the biography of 
> Swami Vivekananda. I came across this.
> On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna,
> Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming
> Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. 
> Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of
> me". After a while , he says "in you and also
> in me, He is everywhere".
> 
> Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of
> evolution are really good to feel. 
> Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself
> has
> evolved in time.
> 
> With kind regards
> Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:      Vijaya Raghavan [mailto:svrvan@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent:      Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM
> To:      ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:      
> Subject:      Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations
> 
> Swamin,
> 
> This is a great info. Tks.
> 
> But, if you compare this with our list and the
> evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific
> scrutiny.
> 
> Dasan/Raghavan
> --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Dear list,
> >  Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten
> incarnations
> > of Verethraghna: 
> > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta)
> > 
> > 1. First coming: Wind 
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him
> first,
> > running in
> > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by
> > Mazda; he bore
> > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by
> > Mazda, that is
> > both health and strength..." 14.2
> > 
> > 2. Second coming: Bull
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > second time,
> > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with
> > yellow ears and
> > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the
> > well-shapen Strength,
> > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7
> > 
> > 3. Third coming: Horse
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > third time, running
> > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with
> > yellow ears and
> > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated
> the
> > well-shapen
> > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9
> > 
> > 4. Fourth coming: Camel
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > fourth time,
> > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel,
> > sharp-toothed,
> > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and
> > living in the
> > abodes of men..." 14.11
> > 
> > 5. Fifth coming: Boar
> > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > fifth time,
> > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes,
> a
> > sharp-toothed
> > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one
> > stroke, pursuing,
> > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift
> to
> > run, and
> > rushing all around..." 14.15
> > 
> > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > sixth time, running
> > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen,
> > shining, clear-eyed,
> > thin-heeled...." 14.17
> > 
> > 7. Seventh coming: Raven
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > seventh time,
> > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and
> > ... above,
> > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the
> lightest
> > of the flying
> > creatures..." 14.19
> > 
> > 8. Eight coming: Ram
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > eighth time,
> > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram,
> with
> > horns bent
> > round..." 14.23
> > 
> > 9. Ninth coming: Buck
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > ninth time, running
> > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with
> > sharp horns.
> > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory
> > made by Mazda,
> > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25
> > 
> > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad
> > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the
> > tenth time, running
> > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made
> by
> > Mazda: he
> > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all
> > sorts of 
> > ornaments..." 14.27
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kasturi Rangan .K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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