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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
Srimad Vara Vara Munaye nama:

Dear Vishnu & other devotees,
          
           Humble praNAms to all. I have forgotten the question 
itself with which this thread started! BTW, are there rAjasic and 
tAmasic ahankAram(like sAthvik)??? Just curious to know:-) That's 
all.

           I thought(!!! I could be wrong but refer to SVB:160-168) 
sEShatva(ananyArha) and pAratantrya go hand in hand. Just 
as "sEShatva" has to be kept suppressed if it hampers the Lord's 
pleasure, the other attribute "pAratantrya" should not also be 
allowed to damp/lower the Lord's spirits. If the jIvAthma/subject is 
unresponsive and behaves like a wood(in the name of dependence), it 
will certainly divert/detract from the Lord's pleasure and thus 
becomes an evil although "pAratantrya"(in the usual context) is the 
anti-thesis of conceit and arrogance. When Srirama,after Ravana was 
overthrown,wanted to see Sita, straight from her captivity(as she 
was in her internment),Sita appeared before the Lord after a 
refreshing bath! This literally made Srirama frown on her "snAnam 
roSha janakam". 

           Again refer to SVB:71-72. pAratantrya will eliminate self-
effort, while sEShatva self-delight and self-enjoyment, provided 
these two fundamental characteristics,which mark the essential 
nature of the individual soul, are fully grasped and lived upto. 
Then these two can be turned towards selfless service, rendered unto 
the Lord, solely for His pleasure, with no tinge of personal egoism.

           All errors in understanding SVB are mine. If a number 
greater than Infinity exists, then "that many" obeisances(of mine) 
to srI piLLai lOkAcArya. He blows my mind. I feel every aphorism
(sUtra) of SVB is a PhD topic. Such is the greatness of srI piLLai 
lOkAcArya. Credit also goes to the devotees Sri Parthasarathy and 
Sri vanamamali Padmanabhan. Plus, Sri Sridhar Srinivasan has already 
nicely explained the position of sEShatva-pAratantrya.

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai


> Respected Swami,
> 
> How will we discuss, if we keep apologizing, saying our posts 
> are "blabberings" and frequently writing "forgive"? May be 
> some "sAttvika ahankAram" is needed:)
> 
> All of us, including self, use words like SEshatvam, kainkaryam 
etc. 
> interchangeably. However, when it comes to SEshatvam vs 
pAratantryam, 
> we need to go into what the terms originally mean.
> 
> I referred to Manavala MamunigaL's commentary for mumukshuppadi 
and 
> explanation of Sriman T.K.Gopaplacharya Swami. In that, Sriman 
T.K. 
> swami defines what is SEshatvam. He says it is remaining as 
bhOgyam 
> for PerumAL, like pushpam, chandanam etc. 
> 
> PirAtti's and other dEvIs' SEshatvam to PerumAL is explained in 
SrI 
> guNa ratna kOSam of Bhattar in similar terms (bhOgyA vAmapi 
> nAntarIyakatayA pushpAngarAgai: samam...)
> 
> Dasanudasan
> Vishnu




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