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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

Dear Sowbhagyavati Vaidehi,

Lakshmana is said to have exhibited sEshatvam only
and not pAratantryam, specifically because he chose
to disobey the Lord's word - when asked to stay back
in Ayodhya. Furthermore, he used the phrase "aham
sarvam karishyAmi" - stating that "I will do every
thing". This is not considered the state of a para-
tantran. As adiyEn mentioned once before, our 
acharyas state that this is the reason why Rama 
chose to take Bharata as the example of brotherhood
rather than Lakshmana - in Aranya Khanda.

On the other hand, Bharata came over to simply pray 
for Rama's return to Ayodhya. He also brought 
Kaikaeyi along to prove that Rama did not have to 
continue on staying in the forest. However, when 
Rama declined, he accepted that and when asked that 
he rule Ayodhya, he simply obeyed it, in spite of 
the fact that it was against his nature to do so. 
Hence, he is the example for pAratantryam.

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan


--- vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>            I don't understand how you made the statement
> that 
> bharata for pArantantryam. If I 'm wrong I want to be
> corrected by 
> the devotees. It is bharata who displayed swagata
> swIkAram,trying to 
> get hold of the Lord(effort on the individual part)and
> that's why 
> Srirama didn't oblige bharata's wish. In the case of
> lakshmaNa,even 
> while rendering service, he would not excercise his own
> volition but 
> only seek the orders of Srirama and the Lord couldn't
> resist but 
> only yield to devotion of such high order. Since it is
> only 
> sEshatvam which sustains the individual soul and makes it
> thrive, 
> lakshmaNa couldn't stay apart from the Lord and could
> thrive only by 
> serving the Lord in all possible ways. Bharata and
> satrughna 
> rendered only particular service while lakshmaNa
> everything to the 
> Lord. In short, lakshmaNa displayed that he has no
> independent 
> existence without that Srirama. Well, don't blame me if
> my english 
> language didn't exactly convey what I wanted to say.
> Please correct 
> me if I'm wrong.
> 
> AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
> dAsAnu dAsI
> NC Nappinnai



                
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