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                       Shri :

Shri kaarimaaran swami thiruvadikalae saranam.

dear bhagavatas



Pranaams.



adiyaen is having trouble in understanding our almighty

adiyaen siriyaen ,eliyaen.... i am still a trainee in srivaishnavism 
philosophy...



I hope you will not get angry with my words. vaasaka dhosham santhavyaha...

almost 30% of Vishnu sahasranaamam is saying that 

our almighty has no form ,but he is big,great , he encompasses everything (in 
the universe)

& he has no matter within himself(like a bliss)

to quote randomly some samples .... one or two ...

aneka roopa roopaaya ( therefore he is formless .. he is visible in 
pluralities) 

Guhyo , gabheero , gahano... 

=> ( he has no form , he is formless , therefore he can not be conceived with 
our 

senses !!!)

Ajo durmarashana-saasthaaa ( he can not be attacked with any weapons - he is 
like a 

shadow , he is unborn in the womb...) 



Amoorthy ranakocinyo.... (he is formless)



swayambhu... ( he is a total one father of universe )

anirdesyavapur-vishnu -veero nantho.. - therefore he has no form

Please be informed that every sanskrit naama of our almighty word has as 

many as 3 explanations. but in total they stress these ... 

Kaarimaaran (Ji)swami (Our Lone torchbearer of this srivaishnavam,My only hope 
of moksham ) 

also says the same thing. Mananunar valavilan ... pori-unar vavaiyilan (1.1.2) 
- he 

can not be conceived !!!

Contradictary starts here for me !!! (how can i reach someone who is formless ? 
)

========================

His Formful explanation. 

================

Given this case ,why all the other descriptions say that he has four hands, 5 
aayudhas, lotus eyed , with a shri vatsa mark on his chest , he has vaijayante 
(always fresh ) maala ,lotus feets,

lotus hands, beautiful limbs , soundarya thirumeni , blue bodied , white face 

(kathir mathiyam pol mukathaan) - ,tall glittering crown 



vaikuntam is a (unreachable) place in the universe with milky ocean which is 
called as 

parama padam (highest abode) so called our moksham( our final destination)

what is the situation of those who have already attained salvation. ? how can 
they attain

formless salvation (bliss).

Does athma has eyes ? i am aware that athma has (& may carry ) knowledge during 
salvation.

how can our aathma can see him without eyes.

am i imagining my aathma like a dust in the air -- 
(anur-brihat..krisha-sthoolaa) 

Please clarify , and apologise if i have confused you ?



Adiyaen ..(Half baked Bread ..)

(Muthal Thaai) Sadagopan Daasan

 

 




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