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Dear Sriman Balaji,

all this is discussed in the Vishnu Sahasranama commentary beginning 
itself by Bhattar. He also discusses the issue of apaSUdrAdhikaraNam 
and defines what Bhakti is. We will try to write. be assured that He 
is saguNa.

Dasan
Vishnu

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Balaji Sundarrajan 
<bsundarrajansrivilliputtur@xxxx> wrote:
> 
>                        Shri :
> 
> Shri kaarimaaran swami thiruvadikalae saranam.
> 
> dear bhagavatas
> 
> 
> 
> Pranaams.
> 
> 
> 
> adiyaen is having trouble in understanding our almighty
> 
> adiyaen siriyaen ,eliyaen.... i am still a trainee in 
srivaishnavism philosophy...
> 
> 
> 
> I hope you will not get angry with my words. vaasaka dhosham 
santhavyaha...
> 
> almost 30% of Vishnu sahasranaamam is saying that 
> 
> our almighty has no form ,but he is big,great , he encompasses 
everything (in the universe)
> 
> & he has no matter within himself(like a bliss)
> 
> to quote randomly some samples .... one or two ...
> 
> aneka roopa roopaaya ( therefore he is formless .. he is visible in 
pluralities) 
> 
> Guhyo , gabheero , gahano... 
> 
> => ( he has no form , he is formless , therefore he can not be 
conceived with our 
> 
> senses !!!)
> 
> Ajo durmarashana-saasthaaa ( he can not be attacked with any 
weapons - he is like a 
> 
> shadow , he is unborn in the womb...) 
> 
> 
> 
> Amoorthy ranakocinyo.... (he is formless)
> 
> 
> 
> swayambhu... ( he is a total one father of universe )
> 
> anirdesyavapur-vishnu -veero nantho.. - therefore he has no form
> 
> Please be informed that every sanskrit naama of our almighty word 
has as 
> 
> many as 3 explanations. but in total they stress these ... 
> 
> Kaarimaaran (Ji)swami (Our Lone torchbearer of this 
srivaishnavam,My only hope of moksham ) 
> 
> also says the same thing. Mananunar valavilan ... pori-unar 
vavaiyilan (1.1.2) - he 
> 
> can not be conceived !!!
> 
> Contradictary starts here for me !!! (how can i reach someone who 
is formless ? )
> 
> ========================
> 
> His Formful explanation. 
> 
> ================
> 
> Given this case ,why all the other descriptions say that he has 
four hands, 5 aayudhas, lotus eyed , with a shri vatsa mark on his 
chest , he has vaijayante (always fresh ) maala ,lotus feets,
> 
> lotus hands, beautiful limbs , soundarya thirumeni , blue bodied , 
white face 
> 
> (kathir mathiyam pol mukathaan) - ,tall glittering crown 
> 
> 
> 
> vaikuntam is a (unreachable) place in the universe with milky ocean 
which is called as 
> 
> parama padam (highest abode) so called our moksham( our final 
destination)
> 
> what is the situation of those who have already attained 
salvation. ? how can they attain
> 
> formless salvation (bliss).
> 
> Does athma has eyes ? i am aware that athma has (& may carry ) 
knowledge during salvation.
> 
> how can our aathma can see him without eyes.
> 
> am i imagining my aathma like a dust in the air -- (anur-
brihat..krisha-sthoolaa) 
> 
> Please clarify , and apologise if i have confused you ?
> 
> 
> 
> Adiyaen ..(Half baked Bread ..)
> 
> (Muthal Thaai) Sadagopan Daasan
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