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Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sri Vanamamalai Padmanabhan,
             Humble praNAms to you. Along with your continuing post 
on bharata,satrghna...kindly dispel my doubt. When thAyar is never 
separated from perumAL(NammAzhvAr's agalagillEn)and we go by SVB:8, 
why shouldn't we consider lakshmaNa for the same pAratantryam also 
when he is never separated from the Lord(senRAm kudaiyAm irundhAl 
simhAsanamAm...)like thAyAr. I would like to be very clear along 
these lines. Once I listened Sri Chinna Jeeyar swami's upanyAsam on 
BG(7th chapter and last three slokas). Swamiji said that even when 
they were in cradle,and when sumitra tried to take lakshmaNa away 
from the Lord,both started crying! Same thing happened with bharata 
and satrgna also. Swamiji also narrated a story(not mentioned in 
vAlmIki rAmAyaNam)wrt Srirama and lakshmaNa. The bottom line of this 
story is perumAL can't live and miserable without lakshmaNa 
either!!!  
             It is b'coz of the inherent gnAtrtvam in the individual 
soul, the jIvA puts self-effort(against pAratantryam)and can have 
erroneous understanding of the upAyam(like jIvAtma's effort in 
mOksha;let's ignore the upEyam for we, within the sriramanuja 
community,know that Lord is the upEyam) the time and also finally 
indulge in slef-delight! My contention is one can do "complete" self-
less service(like lakshmaNa) only when pAratantryam is inherent in 
that jIvA. Correct me if I'm wrong. I want to be crystal clear with 
SVB. 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam
dAsAnu dAsI
NC Nappinnai

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxx> wrote:
> srEvachana bhUshaNam 
> sUthram 83
> 
> "pasiyarAyiruppAr attasORum vuNNa vEANum, adugiRa sORum 
vuNNavEaNum, ennuma pOlEa, kAttukku pOgiRa pOdhu iLaya perumAL 
piriyil thariyamaiyai munnittu, adimai seiyya vEANum, ellA adimaiyum 
seiyya vEANum, yEAvik koLLa vEANum enRAr;
> padai vEttil pugundha pinbu kAttil thani idathil swayampAgathAl 
vayiRRa peRukkina padiyAlEA, oppUN vuNNamAttAdhEa,oru thirukkaiyAlEA 
thiruveN koRRak kodaiyaiyum, oru thirukkaiyAlEA thiru veN 
sAmarathaiyum tharithu adimai seidhAr'
> 
> 
> Those who are very hungry desire to eat the food that is already 
cooked and also being cooked.When the Lord left for exile, sri rAmA 
asked lakshmaNA to be at ayOdhyA. The request was "please take me as 
your kinkaran" Further, he also mentioned that he will not survive 
if he gets separated from the Lord. 
> 
> As per his shEshathvam, sri lakshmaNA desired to serve the LOrd. 
All kind of services. Blemishless services. Absolutely no 
independence. To serve as per the dictum of the Lord -yEAvik koLLa 
vEANum.
> 
> Earlier when they were alone in the forest, sri lakshmaNA had done 
simultaneously all the kainkaryam-s. Akin to that, unlike others who 
were contented with just one service, sri lakshmaNA held high, the 
royal umbrella on the one hand, and the sAmaram on the other. 
> 
> Such an outstanding example of 'upEyam' is sri lakshmaNA's 
character.
> (to be continued)
> vanamamalai padmanabhan
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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