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Dear all,
There is a typing mistake in my earlier mail. Please read the following 
corrected mail. Sorry for the inadvertent mistake.
Adiyen,
Ramanuja Dasan.

>From: "Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta" <acharyatvsr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ramanuja] Please apologise this siruvan - and please shed 
>some light !!!
>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:20:07 +0530
>
>Dear Sir,
>Please read Swami Parashara Bhattar's commentary on Vishnu Sahasra Namam. 
>You
>will not go wrong in interpreting the meanings of the Vishnu Sahasra Namams
>if you understand his commentary. We should NOT, I repeat, not go by the 
>grammatical meaning alone which can lead us to fallacious conclusions.
>Adiyen,
>Dasan,
>Ramanujam.
>
>
> >From: Balaji Sundarrajan <bsundarrajansrivilliputtur@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >CC: ramanujamission@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, andavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [ramanuja] Please apologise this siruvan  - and please shed some
> >light !!!
> >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:48:36 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >
> >                        Shri :
> >
> >Shri kaarimaaran swami thiruvadikalae saranam.
> >
> >dear bhagavatas
> >
> >
> >
> >Pranaams.
> >
> >
> >
> >adiyaen is having trouble in understanding our almighty
> >
> >adiyaen siriyaen ,eliyaen.... i am still a trainee in srivaishnavism
> >philosophy...
> >
> >
> >
> >I hope you will not get angry with my words. vaasaka dhosham 
>santhavyaha...
> >
> >almost 30% of Vishnu sahasranaamam is saying that
> >
> >our almighty has no form ,but he is big,great , he encompasses everything
> >(in the universe)
> >
> >& he has no matter within himself(like a bliss)
> >
> >to quote randomly some samples .... one or two ...
> >
> >aneka roopa roopaaya ( therefore he is formless .. he is visible in
> >pluralities)
> >
> >Guhyo , gabheero , gahano...
> >
> >=> ( he has no form , he is formless , therefore he can not be conceived
> >with our
> >
> >senses !!!)
> >
> >Ajo durmarashana-saasthaaa ( he can not be attacked with any weapons - he
> >is like a
> >
> >shadow , he is unborn in the womb...)
> >
> >
> >
> >Amoorthy ranakocinyo.... (he is formless)
> >
> >
> >
> >swayambhu... ( he is a total one father of universe )
> >
> >anirdesyavapur-vishnu -veero nantho.. - therefore he has no form
> >
> >Please be informed that every sanskrit naama of our almighty word has as
> >
> >many as 3 explanations. but in total they stress these ...
> >
> >Kaarimaaran (Ji)swami (Our Lone torchbearer of this srivaishnavam,My only
> >hope of moksham )
> >
> >also says the same thing. Mananunar valavilan ... pori-unar vavaiyilan
> >(1.1.2) - he
> >
> >can not be conceived !!!
> >
> >Contradictary starts here for me !!! (how can i reach someone who is
> >formless ? )
> >
> >========================
> >
> >His Formful explanation.
> >
> >================
> >
> >Given this case ,why all the other descriptions say that he has four 
>hands,
> >5 aayudhas, lotus eyed , with a shri vatsa mark on his chest , he has
> >vaijayante (always fresh ) maala ,lotus feets,
> >
> >lotus hands, beautiful limbs , soundarya thirumeni , blue bodied , white
> >face
> >
> >(kathir mathiyam pol mukathaan) - ,tall glittering crown
> >
> >
> >
> >vaikuntam is a (unreachable) place in the universe with milky ocean which
> >is called as
> >
> >parama padam (highest abode) so called our moksham( our final 
>destination)
> >
> >what is the situation of those who have already attained salvation. ? how
> >can they attain
> >
> >formless salvation (bliss).
> >
> >Does athma has eyes ? i am aware that athma has (& may carry ) knowledge
> >during salvation.
> >
> >how can our aathma can see him without eyes.
> >
> >am i imagining my aathma like a dust in the air --
> >(anur-brihat..krisha-sthoolaa)
> >
> >Please clarify , and apologise if i have confused you ?
> >
> >
> >
> >Adiyaen ..(Half baked Bread ..)
> >
> >(Muthal Thaai) Sadagopan Daasan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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