Dear Sri Vishnu, This world is full of miseries. We are suffering from three fold miseries. they are Adyatmika, aadiDeivika and Aadhi bouthika. suffering from our own body, mind ect which is called Adyatmika. Then suffering from others like animals, insects and people connected with us (AAdhi boudhika) and suffering from calamities like earthquake, flood, famine etc(Aadhideivika). With all these miseries around are we able to think of Him always? sometimes we even forgot that He is there in our heart.But it is difficult to concentrate on Paramatma within our heart. Thats why for constant thinking of him we go to temples or worship Him at home in the Pictures or vigraha.Every one of us should try to go to the spiritual world where there is no birth, death, oldage and disease.There is only bliss there. we are servants to the Lord and He is our master. So we can do devotional service to Him there without any hindrance.We came here because we disobeyed him and wanted to lord over material nature with our little independence..Like a kind father He always wants us to come there.Thats why He never leaves us, and having compassion on us He comes and sits in our heart always guiding us.If we go there We can see him eye to eye and also talk with him and also do service to Him according to our standard of level of bhakthi. We wont have any miseries only happiness there.and once we go there we will never come back to this mmaterial world. and suffer.but If one wants to go there he has to cultivate certain methods in the path of devotional service here. Krishna Dasee Bedavalli Ranganathan. ing of him we go to temple Thats why for constant thinko --- Vishnu <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > dear Smt Vedavalli, > > That is OK. why should we try/wish to go there, when > He is very much > in our heart? > > Dasan > Vishnu > > --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, vedavalli > ranganathan > <vedaranga@xxxx> wrote: > > Dear Sriman Vishnu, > > > > Swethadwipa is situated in the > > material universe. Kshirodakasayee vishnu , who > is > > paramathma within our heart and incharge of > Sathwik > > guna is residing in the swethadwipa within this > > Universe. Vaikuntha is not within this world . > this > > world is totally material.In the end of this > material > > world Viraja river or the causal ocean is there. > > Beyond this the spiritual world is situated. > Krishna > > says there is no need of sun moon or electricity > > there. From the body of Narayana the effulgance > > spread through out the universe from which the the > sun > > in the material world gets light.This light is > called > > Brahma jyothi.If a pure bhaktha dies his atma > travels > > with the material ego, intelligence and mind till > it > > reaches viraja river. then the subtle body takes > bath > > in this river the atma get rid of this subtle > body > > and gets spiritual body suitable to go to > > Vaikuntha.This i heard from Acharyas and > scriptures. > > > > Krishna Dasee > > > > Vedavalli Ranganathan. > > > > > > The > AzhwArs and other AchAryas have explained > what > > > different features of His ThirumEni symbolize. I > am > > > not able to write since I too dont know. > > > > > > For example, He wields weapons only to assure us > > > that He is ready to protect us always without > delay, > > > as Bhattar says: > > > > > > pAtu: praNata rakshAyAm vilambam asahanniva > > > sadA panchAyudhI bibhrat sana: SrIranganAyaka: > > > in SrIrangarAja stavam. > > > > > > Also He reclines on the serpent only to assure > us He > > > is contemplating on ways to uplift us. > > > > > > Someone may please add as to why He is > lotus-eyed. > > > > > > > > > > > lotus hands, beautiful limbs , soundarya > thirumeni > > > , blue bodied , white face > > > > > > > > (kathir mathiyam pol mukathaan) - ,tall > glittering > > > crown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vaikuntam is a (unreachable) place in the > universe > > > with milky ocean which is called as > > > > > > > > parama padam (highest abode) so called our > > > moksham( our final > > > > destination) > > > > > > > > what is the situation of those who have > already > > > attained > > > > salvation. ? > > > > > > How is mOksham our final destination? 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