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Swamin,
 
Yes all brothers and whole of ramayana is treatise on different forms of Bhakti.
 
Dasan/raghavan

Lakshmi Narasimhan <nrusimhann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Swamins / Bhagavathas,
I apologize for mistakes if any.

> That is why we often correlate iLaya-perumAL with the thiru-voi-
mozhip pAsuram
> "vozhivil kAlam ellAm vudanAi manni, vazhuvilA adimai seiyya vEANum 
nAm" 3-3-1;

Lakshmana is quoted for "udanAi manni", but his failure is known 
in "vazhuvilA adimai". No doubt Lakshmana, Bharatha and Shatrugna are 
quoted in different contexts for different amazing facets of 
prapannas. "udanAi manni" has to be understood in the context of 
functional separation. As my Swamy used to say, Paramathma is always 
within us. He is never separated out. So why would we want to be with 
him? Though we are not separated out of Him structurally / 
phenomenally / physically, we are separated out functionally via 
disobedience, ignorance etc.

Lakshmana need not have been physically with the Lord to perform 
kainkaryam. So, in the context of "aham sarvam karishyAmi", Lakshmana 
did prove his Seshatvam, but, he was a big failure in terms of 
pAratantryam. "vazhuvilA adimai" was what Bharatha did. If the Lord 
says "you do this", you better do it, be it whatever.. That is the 
state of a paratantran. Rama tried the same thing with Hanuman too 
and Hanuman too failed in this case. Rama asked Hanuman to come to 
Vaikuntam. Hanuman denied giving some excellent reasons. Who cares... 
Rama was definitely led down by Hanuman at that point. 
Well, Bharatha had his own mistakes in wounding the lord. He never 
ruled Ayodhya. He fulfilled Rama's order only half the way. He quit 
from forest and returned to Ayodhya. It was Shatrugna who made the 
Lord happy by keeping all his people happy via ruling the country.
Bottom line is, these three brothers were role-models in different 
angles, and no one could ever try to blame these. But, as a matter of 
analysis, when a comparison is made, it helps us understand the state 
of different prapannas. That is why Acharyas have kept different 
levels like Shatrugnan padi, Bharathan padi and Lakshmanan padi.

I understand we must only try to see the best out of anything and so 
must be with historical prapannas. Like Koorathawar said, "he lost 
his eyes because he probably thought some time some where that some 
Bhagavatha's Thiruman was not properly put", if we try to find fault 
with them, we naturally suffer for the same. Since this subject of 
pAratantryam is off the usual ones, I have tried to explain what I 
have heard from the kalakshepams. Kindly pardon me of all my 
ignorance.

I hope everyone views these posts as an analysis on prapannas' state 
of mind, rather than grasping the so called faults of the quoted 
historical characters. 

sarva aparAdhAn kshamasva.

Adiyen,
Ramanuja dAsan
Off the line, I humbly feel, no one else other than the Lord himself 
could depict such wonderful pAratantrym as in the case of Parashu 
Rama chopping off His own mother's head when instructed by His father 
Jamadagni.

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Padmanabhan <aazhwar@xxxx> wrote:
> Dear SrEvaishNavites,
> I
> Why did sri lakshmaNA refuse to heed sri ramA's direction to remain 
at ayOdhyA? though this question is not directly taken up, the 
comentary -sri maNavALa mAmunikal's vyAkyAnam has addressed this 
issue.
> 
> Two reasons have been attributed. 1. lakshmaNA could not stand 
separation from the Lord. 2. He wanted to do all the service to the 
Lord- that is why he mentioned 'aham sarvam karishyAmi'
> 
> Why should he say 'i will do all ' . This can also be inferred from 
the vyAkyAnam:
> "inna inna adimai seiyya vEaNum enRa oru niyadhi inRikkEa, ellA 
adimaiyum seiyya vEANum ennum"
> 
> An event has been quoted here. When they were in pancha-vati,  sri 
rAmA asked lakshmaNA to build a parNa-sAlA at a place which is 
located near water source and is also in a shadow area. sri lakshmANA 
felt doomed. Why? He felt that Lord had mounted independence on him. 
> 'nam thalaiyilEa swAthantharyathai vaitha pOdhu perumAL nammai 
kaivittAr enRu vikrutharAi, pirAtti munnilaiyAga kaiyum anjaliyumAga 
ninRu- "yEavik-koLLa vEANum' enRu prArthithAr.
> 
> The blemish of independence should not mix while doing kainkaryam.
> 
> II. In the 85th sUthram the important characteristics of upAyam and 
upEyam are highlighted.
> "upAyathukku sakthiyum,lajjaiyum, yathnamum kulaiya vEANum;
> upEyathukku, prEAmamum,  thannaip pEANAmaiyum, thariyAmaiyum 
vEANum" srEvacahana bhUshaNam.
> 
> For upEyam - Immense emotional attachment and affection towards the 
Lord which propels oneself not to be separated from Him adn do all 
the services.sri laksmaNA excelled in this. 
> 
> Recalling the event referred hereinabove, it is crystal clear that 
lakshmaNA had feared independence while performing kainkaryam thus 
removing the defect of independence and self enjoyment in the 
shEshathvam.
> 
> Does this not make iLaya perumAL a true role model of upEyam.
> 
> That is why we often correlate iLaya-perumAL with the thiru-voi-
mozhip pAsuram
> "vozhivil kAlam ellAm vudanAi manni, vazhuvilA adimai seiyya vEANum 
nAm" 3-3-1;
> 
> 'lakshmaNO lakshmi sampannA:!"
> 
> concluded
> rAmAnuja dAsan
> vanamamalai padmanabhan
> 
> 





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