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Sri Parthasarathi thunai,
Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha
Sri Vara Vara munayE namaha
Sri vanachala mahA munayE Namaha

Dear Srimathi Vedavalli,

There have been a lot of good discussions going on in this group.  Adiyen's 
humble pranams to all bhagavatas who have given valid points/anubhavams on the 
lines of our vedas/azhvars/acharya not moving away from our sampradayam as 
shown by our poorvacharyas. Adiyen has been a passive reader for quite 
sometime.  Let adiyen now with the permission of all the learned bhagavatas 
write about the "Nava vidha sambhanda" as mentioned by Pillai lokacharya.

"pithA cha rakshagas sEshi bharthA jnEyO ramApathi: I
 svAmyAdhArO mamAtmA cha bhOkthA sAtyamanoodhitha: II"

1) PithA-putra sambhandam (Father-Son relation)
2) rakshya-rakshaga (protected-protector)
3} sesha-seshi (servant-master)
4) bharthA-bhArya (husband-Wife)
5) jyAthru-jnEya (knowledge-that which is known)
6) svam-svami (property-owner)
7) sareera-sareeri (body-soul)
8) dhArya-dhAraka (AdhAra-AdhEya bhAvam, that which holds and that which is 
held)
9) bhOkthru- bhOkya (one who enjoys-that which gives enjoyment)

It has been shown that all these relationships are shown by the thirumanthram 
by our poorvacharyas.

"nammAchAryargal prathamarahasya thAtparyamAna nava vidha sambhandham 
svaroopajnAnaththukku nithyAnusandhEyamendru ansandhiththum upadEsiththum 
poruvargal"

Alwar emperumAnAr jeeyer thiruvadigale sharanam
Adiyen ramanuja dAsee
Sumithra Varadarajan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: vedavalli ranganathan 
  To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [ramanuja] Re: Addlt thoughts on Sriman Balaji's queries


  Dear Sri vishnu,

                devotional service is called bhakthi in
  sanskrit.all activities reg.mind,body and soul done
  with pure devotionwhich are connected with the supreme
  Person( Perumal)  alone is called  devotional
  service.In the scriptures it is said there are nine
  kinds of devotional service.they are sravanam,
  kirtanam,smaranam or remembering,vandhanam or paying
  obeisances,padhasevanam,  Dasyam, worshiping,treating
  as a friend, and Atma nevadhanam.

  Sravanam--- Parikshit Maharaj
  Kirtanam --- Sukha dev goswami
  Smaranam --- Bhaktha Prahlad
  Vandanam ---  Akrura
  Padhasevanam --- Lakshmiji  always doing service to
  Maha vishnu
  Worshipping ----Prithu Maharaj
  Dasyam -----  Hanuman
  Worshipping ----   Prithu Maharaj
  Treating as a friend ---Arjuna
  Atma Nivedhanam  ----Bali Maharaj

  Above said Personalities are example for pure
  devottees. And also Ambarisha Maharaj was always doing
  bhakthi with all his senses , mind and soul.Yes i
  admit i read bhagwath gita as it is .I heard Pillai
  Lokachariar  also had  given nine sambhanda reg.
  devotional service .I am trying to get that.If  any
  one know that please let me know that.

  Krishna Dasee 

  Vedavalli Ranganathan.
    <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  > Dear Smt Vedavalli,
  > 
  > Your (right) write-up on sAttvika ahankAram told me
  > u had read 
  > BhagavadgItA As It Is (correct me if I am wrong).
  > Why are you going 
  > back now? Kindly tell me what is devotional service
  > in sanskrit:-)
  > I guessed you would give the right word.
  > 
  > > Dear Sri Vishnu,
  > > 
  > >               
  > >                Yes , we have to cultivate or
  > practice
  > > pure bhakthi., Bhakthi is always there within our
  > > heart. Due to our Karmas, and material desires,and
  > > because of Maya we dont develop our bhakthi.And
  > for
  > > Pure devotion we should have surrendering
  > mentality to
  > > Him   and receive  His mercy also. If we take one
  > step
  > > towards Him He will take two steps towards us.That
  > is
  > > Perumal's Greatness. Without His mercy it is
  > difficult
  > > to advance.From reading your postings i understand
  > you
  > > are a knowledgable person. I think you are teasing
  > me
  > > with your questions. I am answering you with my
  > > limited knowledge.
  > 
  > I am sorry. I am neither knowledgeable nor teasing
  > anyone. As my 
  > AchArya reiterates: "Youngsters should discuss,
  > analyze", I am trying 
  > to move with that spirit. Also the opinions given in
  > the list are 
  > based on my own understanding.
  > 
  > Dasan
  > Vishnu
  > 
  > 
  > 



              
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