Dear Srimathi Sumithra Varadarajan, Thank you very much for the information. I am benifitted from that. Yesterday i happened to hear a CD reg. this topic Nava vidha Sambandam.Avery nice lecture frpm Sri Velukkudi Swamin..He gave ihn his lecture the same nine sambandha as you had mentioned. Once again thank you. Can you tell me what does Sri Vachana bhushanam consist of? Manavala Mamunigal says in Upadesa Rathina malai that it is very difficult to understand.If any body knows about this pl.send the details. where we can get the work? Krishna Dasee Vedavalli Ranganathan. --- Sumithra Varadarajan <Sumivaradan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sri Parthasarathi thunai, > Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha > Sri Vara Vara munayE namaha > Sri vanachala mahA munayE Namaha > > Dear Srimathi Vedavalli, > > There have been a lot of good discussions going on > in this group. Adiyen's humble pranams to all > bhagavatas who have given valid points/anubhavams on > the lines of our vedas/azhvars/acharya not moving > away from our sampradayam as shown by our > poorvacharyas. Adiyen has been a passive reader for > quite sometime. Let adiyen now with the permission > of all the learned bhagavatas write about the "Nava > vidha sambhanda" as mentioned by Pillai lokacharya. > > "pithA cha rakshagas sEshi bharthA jnEyO ramApathi: > I > svAmyAdhArO mamAtmA cha bhOkthA sAtyamanoodhitha: > II" > > 1) PithA-putra sambhandam (Father-Son relation) > 2) rakshya-rakshaga (protected-protector) > 3} sesha-seshi (servant-master) > 4) bharthA-bhArya (husband-Wife) > 5) jyAthru-jnEya (knowledge-that which is known) > 6) svam-svami (property-owner) > 7) sareera-sareeri (body-soul) > 8) dhArya-dhAraka (AdhAra-AdhEya bhAvam, that which > holds and that which is held) > 9) bhOkthru- bhOkya (one who enjoys-that which gives > enjoyment) > > It has been shown that all these relationships are > shown by the thirumanthram by our poorvacharyas. > > "nammAchAryargal prathamarahasya thAtparyamAna nava > vidha sambhandham svaroopajnAnaththukku > nithyAnusandhEyamendru ansandhiththum upadEsiththum > poruvargal" > > Alwar emperumAnAr jeeyer thiruvadigale sharanam > Adiyen ramanuja dAsee > Sumithra Varadarajan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: vedavalli ranganathan > To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [ramanuja] Re: Addlt thoughts on > Sriman Balaji's queries > > > Dear Sri vishnu, > > devotional service is called bhakthi > in > sanskrit.all activities reg.mind,body and soul > done > with pure devotionwhich are connected with the > supreme > Person( Perumal) alone is called devotional > service.In the scriptures it is said there are > nine > kinds of devotional service.they are sravanam, > kirtanam,smaranam or remembering,vandhanam or > paying > obeisances,padhasevanam, Dasyam, > worshiping,treating > as a friend, and Atma nevadhanam. > > Sravanam--- Parikshit Maharaj > Kirtanam --- Sukha dev goswami > Smaranam --- Bhaktha Prahlad > Vandanam --- Akrura > Padhasevanam --- Lakshmiji always doing service > to > Maha vishnu > Worshipping ----Prithu Maharaj > Dasyam ----- Hanuman > Worshipping ---- Prithu Maharaj > Treating as a friend ---Arjuna > Atma Nivedhanam ----Bali Maharaj > > Above said Personalities are example for pure > devottees. And also Ambarisha Maharaj was always > doing > bhakthi with all his senses , mind and soul.Yes i > admit i read bhagwath gita as it is .I heard > Pillai > Lokachariar also had given nine sambhanda reg. > devotional service .I am trying to get that.If > any > one know that please let me know that. > > Krishna Dasee > > Vedavalli Ranganathan. > <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dear Smt Vedavalli, > > > > Your (right) write-up on sAttvika ahankAram told > me > > u had read > > BhagavadgItA As It Is (correct me if I am > wrong). > > Why are you going > > back now? Kindly tell me what is devotional > service > > in sanskrit:-) > > I guessed you would give the right word. > > > > > Dear Sri Vishnu, > > > > > > > > > Yes , we have to cultivate or > > practice > > > pure bhakthi., Bhakthi is always there within > our > > > heart. Due to our Karmas, and material > desires,and > > > because of Maya we dont develop our > bhakthi.And > > for > > > Pure devotion we should have surrendering > > mentality to > > > Him and receive His mercy also. If we take > one > > step > > > towards Him He will take two steps towards > us.That > > is > > > Perumal's Greatness. Without His mercy it is > > difficult > > > to advance.From reading your postings i > understand > > you > > > are a knowledgable person. I think you are > teasing > > me > > > with your questions. I am answering you with > my > > > limited knowledge. > > > > I am sorry. I am neither knowledgeable nor > teasing > > anyone. As my > > AchArya reiterates: "Youngsters should discuss, > > analyze", I am trying > > to move with that spirit. 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