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The gaudiya vaishnava acharya Jiva Goswami in his
commentary to 11.5.38 to 11.5.40 (available at
www.granthamandira.org) says as follows:

" kvacit kvacit gaudAdau
SrI-krishna-caitanya-devAvatArena | dravideshu ca
bhUrisah iti SrI-vaishnavAdy-apekshayA  "

I uderstand this to mean that by 'kvacit kvacit', it
refers to the SrI Krishna caitanya who appeared in
bengal and by 'dravidesu ca bhurisah' it specifically
refers to the Sri Vaishnavas.

ramanuja dasi
vedavalli Ranganathan

--- tesh_tel <tesh_tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jai Shri Krishna.
> 
> I have come across two verses in chapter 5 of canto
> 11 of the Srimad 
> Bhagavata purana, in these verse Narada, explians
> how Sriman NArayam 
> is worshiped the varius yugas, and i would like to
> know how these 
> verses are construed and Interpreted by in Sri
> vaishnava 
> sampradaya.  
> 
> Fristly we have Sloka 32 (chapter 5, canto 11)
> 
>                 
> kr&#803;s&#803;n&#803;a-varn&#803;am&#769;
> tvis&#803;&#257;kr&#803;s&#803;n&#803;am&#769;
>                 
>
s&#257;&#324;gop&#257;&#324;g&#257;stra-p&#257;rs&#803;adam
>                  yajñaih&#803;
> sa&#324;k&#299;rtana-pr&#257;yair
>                  yajanti hi su-medhasah&#803;
> 
> "In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform
> congregational 
> chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who
> constantly sings 
> the names of Kr&#803;s&#803;n&#803;a. Although His
> complexion is not blackish, He is 
> Kr&#803;s&#803;n&#803;a Himself. He is accompanied
> by His associates, servants, 
> weapons and confidential companions"
> 
> Secondly there are verses 38-40 in the same
> chapter..
>           kr&#803;t&#257;dis&#803;u praj&#257;
> r&#257;jan
>           kal&#257;v icchanti sambhavam
>           kalau khalu bhavis&#803;yanti
>          
>
n&#257;r&#257;yan&#803;a-par&#257;yan&#803;&#257;h&#803;
>           kvacit kvacin mah&#257;-r&#257;ja
>           dravid&#803;es&#803;u ca
> bh&#363;ri&#347;ah&#803;
>           t&#257;mraparn&#803;&#299; nad&#299; yatra
>           kr&#803;tam&#257;l&#257; payasvin&#299;
>           k&#257;ver&#299; ca
> mah&#257;-pun&#803;y&#257;
>           prat&#299;c&#299; ca mah&#257;-nad&#299;
>           ye pibanti jalam&#769;
> t&#257;s&#257;m&#769;
>           manuj&#257; manuje&#347;vara
>           pr&#257;yo bhakt&#257; bhagavati          
>           v&#257;sudeve
> 'mal&#257;&#347;ay&#257;h&#803;
> 
> "My dear King, the inhabitants of Satya-yuga and
> other ages eagerly 
> desire to take birth in this age of Kali, since in
> this age there 
> will be many devotees of the Supreme Lord,
> N&#257;r&#257;yan&#803;a. These devotees 
> will appear in various places but will be especially
> numerous in 
> South India. O master of men, in the age of Kali
> those persons who 
> drink the waters of the holy rivers of
> Dravid&#803;a-de&#347;a, such as the 
> T&#257;mraparn&#803;&#299;, Krtam&#257;l&#257;,
> Payasvin&#299;, the extremely pious K&#257;ver&#299;
> and the 
> Prat&#299;c&#299; Mah&#257;nad&#299;, will almost
> all be purehearted devotees of the 
> Supreme Personality of Godhead, V&#257;sudeva."
> 
> Who is being predicted in sloka 32???? Gaudiyas
> interpret this to 
> mean Chaitanya mahaprabhu, the swaminarayans see
> this as predicting 
> Sahajanada swami (Swaminarayan).  What is the view
> of Sri vaishnava 
> Purvacharyas in regards to this verse???
> 
> In slokas 38-49 does the referrence to "the
> devottees in south 
> india" refer to The Alawars and Srimat Ramanuja?????
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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