[B-Greek] IRom 1:0

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sun Dec 21 20:39:15 EST 2003


At 7:03 PM -0500 12/21/03, <bertdehaan at gosympatico.ca> wrote:
>(According to Mounce's workbook, the following passage is from IRom 1:0
>what ever that is.)
>ASPAZOMAI EV ONOMATI IHSOU CRISTOU, hUIOU PATROS; KATA SARKA KAI PNEUMA
>hHNWMEVOIS PASHi ENTOLHi AUTOU.

Bert. would you carefully check the text and see if you've transcribed it
correctly. The text may very well come from 1 Rom 1:0, which is to say, a
non-existent verse. It doesn't really look in its present form like any
Greek I've ever seen. ASPAZOMAI normally takes an accusative complement;
hHNWMENOIS (please use only the N for Nu;it's confusing when you use
sometimes V and sometimes N) without an article doesn't make much sense
here, and PASHi ENTOLHi without an article is also weird--especially in the
singular. Luke 1:6 has ... POREUOMENOI EN PASAIS TAIS ENTOLAIS ..., a much
more natural Greek expression; for my part, I don't understand the
expression hENOW PASHi ENTOLHi. Heb 9:9 has the genitive absolute
construction LALHQEISHS PASHS ENTOLHS KATA TON NOMON hUPO MWUSEWS PANTI TWi
LAWi, "after every commandment has been spoken according to the Law by
Moses to the entire populace, ..." But "unite by/in every commandment ..."?
I somehow don't think Paul wrote or would have written a sentence such as
that transcribed above. I'd rather think there's one or two mistakes in the
transcription.

>I translated this as follows:"I send greetings in the name of Jesus
>Christ, Son of the Father, according to the flesh and Spirit, to all who
>are united in every one of his commandments".
>The answer key has the following translation:" I send greetings in the
>name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, to all who are united
>according to flesh and spirit to his every command".
>How does -according to flesh and spirit- belong to the recipients of the
>greetings and not to -Jesus Christ, Son of the Father-?
>I understand that the Son is not the son of the Father according to the
>flesh, but I can't change my translation based on what I think it should
>read.
>Thank you.
>Bert de Haan
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Carl W. Conrad
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