[B-Greek] Rev 7:14 hOUTOI EISIN hOI *ERCOMENOI* EK THS QLIYEWS THS MEGALHS
George F. Somsel
gfsomsel at juno.com
Sun May 16 10:02:54 EDT 2004
Note that this is a periphrastic clause: EISIN . . . ERXOMENOI "they are
coming" and that they are further described by a aorist indicatives
EPLUNAN "they washed" and ELEUKANAN "made them white." It would seem to
me that this is indeed described as an ongoing event. In contrast to
this the 144,000 in vv. 4-8 are described using the perfect passive
participles ESFRAGISMENWN and ESFRAGISMENOI. It would seem to indicate
that while the status of the one group is fixed, that of the other is
still developing.
gfsomsel
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 08:43:09 -0400 Jonathan Robie
<jonathan.robie at datadirect.com> writes:
> Rev 7:14 hOUTOI EISIN hOI *ERCOMENOI* EK THS QLIYEWS THS MEGALHS
>
> That's a present middle participle. Robertson comments:
>
> > They which come out of the great tribulation (hoi erchomenoi ek
> te?s
> > thlipseo?s te?s megale?s). Present middle participle with the idea
> of
> > continued repetition. "The martyrs are still arriving from the
> scene
> > of the great tribulation" (Charles). Apparently some great crisis
> is
> > contemplated (Mat_13:19.; Mat_24:21; Mar_13:10), though the whole
> > series may be in mind and so may anticipate final judgment.
>
> Does the force of this verb require a sense of continual repetition,
> of
> martyrs continuing to arrive? I ask this because most translations
> and
> many commentaries do not seem to see it this way.
>
> Jonathan
>
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