[B-Greek] EGGIZW

Celia Villa-Landa celiavillalanda at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 24 08:39:50 EDT 2005


Thank you.  I recognise that the interpretation is essentially theological 
and outside the compass of the b-greek list.  I wondered, though,  if the 
etymology of the word threw any light on the translation of the perfect 
tense as uncompleted rather than completed.
Celia Villa-Landa


>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at ioa.com>
>To: Celia Villa-Landa <celiavillalanda at hotmail.com>
>CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] EGGIZW
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:47:16 -0400
>
>
>On Aug 24, 2005, at 6:15 AM, Celia Villa-Landa wrote:
>
>>Hi! I'm a new subscriber.  I am trying to discover why there is so  much
>>variety in the translation of HGGIKEN, perfect tense of EGGIZW, in NT
>>scholarship - for example, 'is at hand', 'has come', 'is near'.  I  
>>imagine
>>this has been discussed before.  Can someone direct me to the  appropriate
>>archive?  Thank you!
>>Celia Villa-Landa
>
>I will first cite the relevant BDAG entry for EGGIZW:
>     2. to draw near in a temporal sense, draw near, come near,  approach 
>(POxy 1202, 8; w. dat., Epict. 3, 10, 14; Tat. 37:1). W.  indications of 
>time (KClark, JBL 59, ’40, 367–83) the hour Mt  26:45; the day (Ezk 
>7:4; 12:23) Ro 13:12; Hb 10:25; the (feast) day  GJs 1:2; 2:2; hO KAIROS 
>(La 4:18; 1 Macc 9:10) Lk 21:8; cp. Mt 21:34;  hO CRONOS Ac 7:17; the 
>Passover Lk 22:1; the end 1 Pt 4:7; the final  stumbling-block B 4:3; cp. 
>ending of Mk in the Freer ms. 8; the  judgment GPt 7:25; destruction of the 
>temple Lk 21:20; redemption vs.  28. MECRI QANATOU HGGISEN come close to 
>dying Phil 2:30 (cp. Job  33:22; Sir 51:6 HGGISEN hEWS QANATOU). PKatz, TZ 
>5, ’49, 7;  ADebrunner, Mus. Helv. 11, ’54, 58f.—Esp. of the 
>approaching Reign  of God: HGGIKEN hH BASILEIA TWN OURANWN (or TOU QEOU) Mt 
>3:2; 4:17;  10:7; Mk 1:15; Lk 10:9, 11 (WHutton, ET 64, ’52/53, 89–91: 
>has  come for the Lk passages); AcPl Ha 8, 31=BMM verso 2f. Of the Lord’s 
>  return Js 5:8.—On ‘realized eschatology’ s. CDodd, Parables of  the 
>Kgdm.3 ’36, 44–51, ET 48, ’36/37, 138–42; JCampbell, ET  48, 
>’36/37, 91–94; RFuller, The Mission and Achievement of Jesus  ’54, 
>20–25; RBerkey, JBL 82, ’63, 177–87; MBlack, An Aramaic  Approach3, 
>’67, 208–11.—DELG s.v. ἐγγύς. M-M. TW. Sv.
>
>In my judgment, there are two factors involved in what you have  observed 
>as variant understandings of HGGIKEN, especially as used in  the Synoptic 
>Gospel formulations of the initial proclamation of Jesus:
>
>(1) there's the question whether to interpret the perfect tense as a  
>stative with the sense "is here" (= has completed its nearing) or as  
>aoristic with heavy emphasis upon the sense of EGGUS, "near": "has  come 
>near" (but isn't yet here).
>
>(2) The other factor has more to do with opposed conceptions of the  
>eschatological views held by Jesus and/or by the evangelists who  report 
>Jesus' initial proclamation: some hold for a "realized  eschatology" or 
>something closer to the "realized" notion that the  Kingdom of God is 
>present in the appearance of Jesus or in his  activity; others hold for a 
>"future eschatology" or something closer  to that notion that the Kingdom 
>of God has been brought near by Jesus  but hasn't yet arrived.
>
>Please note that WE DO NOT DISCUSS THESE ESCHATOLOGICAL  INTERPRETATIONS AS 
>SUCH on B-Greek -- arguments for either or any  alternative on the 
>eschatological assumptions governing an  understanding of the 
>Jesus-statement; I have mentioned them only  because I think they do have a 
>bearing upon the ways in which the  translations have represented the 
>Jesus-statement. Discussion on B- Greek really ought to focus upon 
>understanding the perfect tense form  of EGGIZW.
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
>1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
>cwconrad2 at mac.com
>WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>

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