[B-Greek] EGGIZW
Celia Villa-Landa
celiavillalanda at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 24 08:39:50 EDT 2005
Thank you. I recognise that the interpretation is essentially theological
and outside the compass of the b-greek list. I wondered, though, if the
etymology of the word threw any light on the translation of the perfect
tense as uncompleted rather than completed.
Celia Villa-Landa
>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at ioa.com>
>To: Celia Villa-Landa <celiavillalanda at hotmail.com>
>CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] EGGIZW
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:47:16 -0400
>
>
>On Aug 24, 2005, at 6:15 AM, Celia Villa-Landa wrote:
>
>>Hi! I'm a new subscriber. I am trying to discover why there is so much
>>variety in the translation of HGGIKEN, perfect tense of EGGIZW, in NT
>>scholarship - for example, 'is at hand', 'has come', 'is near'. I
>>imagine
>>this has been discussed before. Can someone direct me to the appropriate
>>archive? Thank you!
>>Celia Villa-Landa
>
>I will first cite the relevant BDAG entry for EGGIZW:
> 2. to draw near in a temporal sense, draw near, come near, approach
>(POxy 1202, 8; w. dat., Epict. 3, 10, 14; Tat. 37:1). W. indications of
>time (KClark, JBL 59, â40, 367â83) the hour Mt 26:45; the day (Ezk
>7:4; 12:23) Ro 13:12; Hb 10:25; the (feast) day GJs 1:2; 2:2; hO KAIROS
>(La 4:18; 1 Macc 9:10) Lk 21:8; cp. Mt 21:34; hO CRONOS Ac 7:17; the
>Passover Lk 22:1; the end 1 Pt 4:7; the final stumbling-block B 4:3; cp.
>ending of Mk in the Freer ms. 8; the judgment GPt 7:25; destruction of the
>temple Lk 21:20; redemption vs. 28. MECRI QANATOU HGGISEN come close to
>dying Phil 2:30 (cp. Job 33:22; Sir 51:6 HGGISEN hEWS QANATOU). PKatz, TZ
>5, â49, 7; ADebrunner, Mus. Helv. 11, â54, 58f.âEsp. of the
>approaching Reign of God: HGGIKEN hH BASILEIA TWN OURANWN (or TOU QEOU) Mt
>3:2; 4:17; 10:7; Mk 1:15; Lk 10:9, 11 (WHutton, ET 64, â52/53, 89â91:
>has come for the Lk passages); AcPl Ha 8, 31=BMM verso 2f. Of the Lordâs
> return Js 5:8.âOn ârealized eschatologyâ s. CDodd, Parables of the
>Kgdm.3 â36, 44â51, ET 48, â36/37, 138â42; JCampbell, ET 48,
>â36/37, 91â94; RFuller, The Mission and Achievement of Jesus â54,
>20â25; RBerkey, JBL 82, â63, 177â87; MBlack, An Aramaic Approach3,
>â67, 208â11.âDELG s.v. á¼Î³Î³á½»Ï. M-M. TW. Sv.
>
>In my judgment, there are two factors involved in what you have observed
>as variant understandings of HGGIKEN, especially as used in the Synoptic
>Gospel formulations of the initial proclamation of Jesus:
>
>(1) there's the question whether to interpret the perfect tense as a
>stative with the sense "is here" (= has completed its nearing) or as
>aoristic with heavy emphasis upon the sense of EGGUS, "near": "has come
>near" (but isn't yet here).
>
>(2) The other factor has more to do with opposed conceptions of the
>eschatological views held by Jesus and/or by the evangelists who report
>Jesus' initial proclamation: some hold for a "realized eschatology" or
>something closer to the "realized" notion that the Kingdom of God is
>present in the appearance of Jesus or in his activity; others hold for a
>"future eschatology" or something closer to that notion that the Kingdom
>of God has been brought near by Jesus but hasn't yet arrived.
>
>Please note that WE DO NOT DISCUSS THESE ESCHATOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS AS
>SUCH on B-Greek -- arguments for either or any alternative on the
>eschatological assumptions governing an understanding of the
>Jesus-statement; I have mentioned them only because I think they do have a
>bearing upon the ways in which the translations have represented the
>Jesus-statement. Discussion on B- Greek really ought to focus upon
>understanding the perfect tense form of EGGIZW.
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
>1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
>cwconrad2 at mac.com
>WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>
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