[B-Greek] How do you Read Mark 7:2 and 7:3

Richard Richmond rickr2889 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 10 07:56:16 EDT 2005


How do you read? 

the translation of these verses has often been the subject of much debate. There are two items in particular that draw attention to these two verses. The first has to do with the loaves or breads. Many have seen the word as insignificant to the passage. The RSV for example leaves ARTOUS out of the English translation completely. The KJV includes the word but drops the definite article in translation (not an uncommon practice for translators).  Manuscript Evidence strongly supports the text below including the loaves accompanied by the definite article. Some would say that the loaves are critical to the text as they indicate some sort of ritual perhaps a Eucharist. I am interested in comments on  the text of these two verses 

Mark 7:2

KAI  IDONTES  TINAS TWN  MAQHTWN  AUTOU  hOTI  KOINAIS  CERSIN  TOUT  ESTIN 

And seeing some of the disciples of him that with  common   hands                 (this is 

ANIPTOIS  ESQIOUSIN  TOUS  ARTOUS 

unwashed) they eat the loaves

 

The second issue has to do with the use of PUGMHi to describe the washing. Traditionally in the Greek language the word is used in two ways: First and foremost as “boxing” and secondly as a measurement from hand to elbow.  I am sure that the usage broadened over time as with all languages.  It seems to me that understanding these verses is critical to understanding the narrative of this unique encounter.  

Rick Richmond   rickr2889 at yahoo.com

 

Mark 7:3

hOI GAR FARISAIOI KAI PANTES hOI IOUDAIOI EAN MH PUGMHi NIYWNTAI TAS CEIRAS 

for the Pharisees and all the Jews unless with the fists they wash the hands

OUK  ESQIOUSIN  KRATOUNTES  THN  PARADOSIN  TWN  PRESBUTERWN 

eat not holding the tradition of the elders

a personal note is there a way to receive your own posts on this list? I never see what I have posted.


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