[B-Greek] Rom. 1:17
Charles Rempel
CharlesR at mygalaxyexpress.com
Thu Mar 3 09:29:31 EST 2005
At 3:01 AM -0600 3/2/05, Charles Rempel wrote:
>I see EK PISTEWS as "saving faith", the one time act of volition wherein
the
>unsaved is justified, Romans 3:28. And EIS PISTIN as "living faith", i.e.,
>the righteous who has already been justified, must live by it. I would
agree
>with the idea that living faith would cover the idea of ever increasing
>levels.
While this is intelligible and just may be right, I think it ought to be
admitted that there's no way to derive this sense from the Greek
construction itself; i.e. this interpretation is speculative.
Carl W. Conrad
Charles:
In Romans 1:16 we have the phrase EIS SWTHRIAN PANTI TW PISTEUONTI. In
Ephesians 2:8 it is stated ESTE SESWSMENOI DIA PISTEWS. These two phrases
speak of the same event. And thus I have classified this as "saving faith."
In Romans 1:17 we have O DE DIKAIOS EK PISTEWS ZHSETAI. This I have
classified as "living faith."
If all we are determining is that the text says EK PISTEWS EIS PISTIN, "out
of faith into faith" then I wonder if I am the only one violating B-Greek
protocol. I believe that part of the analysis of the text is the
categorization of terms. In Romans 8 when one looks at the word PNEUMA one
must discriminate between usages by means of context. When Paul uses the
phrases AUTO TO PNEUMA and TW PNEUMATI HMWN (v.16) we easily classify these
as two different entities. When we classify BAPTISMA as Spirit baptism
verses John's baptism as being two distinctive events, are we not doing so
based upon the Greek text?
Please enlighten me as to my faulty logic and procedure.
Charles
30 year student
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