[B-Greek] Mk 9:1 ELHLUQUIAN

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at ioa.com
Fri Jan 13 19:52:15 EST 2006


On Jan 13, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Webb wrote:

> What does the group think of rendering the verse this way:
>
> hOITINES OU MH GEUSWNTAI QANATOU hEWS AN IDWSIN THN BASILEIAN TOU QEOU
> ELHLUTHUIAN EN DUNAMEI
>
> ".who won't ever die/taste death until they've seen the kingdom of  
> God come
> in/with power"
>
>  The idea of the perfect tense (past action, present/ongoing resultant
> condition) works here in English through the verb to see on behalf  
> of the
> verb to come (ERCOMAI)-they've seen it come, which implies that it  
> has come
> and stayed. Or does ELHLUQUIAN almost have the force, "they've seen  
> the
> kingdom of God *present* in/with power"?

Others may not I agree, but I would hold to two points about this text:

(1) The participle functioning with the noun BASILEIAN as object of a  
verb of perception (IDWSIN) means "see that the kingdom of God HAS  
ARRIVED"

(2) The participle ELHLUQUIAN is significant as indicator that what  
these fortunate persons will see is a FAIT ACCOMPLI.


Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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