[B-Greek] b-Re: Digitized Machen?

Jeff Smelser jeffsmelser at ntgreek.net
Mon Sep 4 16:54:16 EDT 2006


Thanks, John

Jeff Smelser
http://www.ntgreek.net
http://www.centrevillechurchofchrist.org

John Schwandt wrote:

>I looked into this a couple years ago and found that Prentice Hall holds the
>copyright to the both the first and second edition of Machen's text.
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>http://vig.prenhall.com/catalog/academic/product/0,1144,013184234X,00.html
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>They have exercised their right for that copyright.  A number of publishers
>selling the first edition had to stop.  I asked both Wipf & Stock and
>Trinity Foundation why they stopped selling the first edition and they both
>said that text turned out not be in the public domain.  That may also be the
>reason why online versions are no longer available.
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>The story I heard was that Machen's brother had the copyright and then sold
>it to Prentice Hall a number of decades ago.
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>I believe that the first edition will come into public domain in 2018.  (95
>years after publication).  That is unless the US government changes the
>copyright law again, which seems to happen each time Mickey Mouse is about
>to enter the public domain.
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>John Schwandt
>www.biblicalgreek.org
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>From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Smelser
>Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:32 AM
>To: Biblical Greek
>Subject: [B-Greek] b-Re: Digitized Machen?
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>Todd, Harold,
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>I'm a bit confused about what I knew or thought I knew about the status 
>of the copyright on Machen's grammar. It seems to me that after having 
>posted the information Harold quoted, I may have learned that I was 
>mistaken, and that someone still held a copyright on Machen's work after 
>all. I'm traveling at the moment and can't conveniently track the 
>information down. If someone else hasn't cleared up the matter before I 
>return home, I'll see if I can get the information then.
>
>Jeff Smelser
>http://www.ntgreek.net
>http://www.centrevillechurchofchrist.org
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>Harold Holmyard wrote:
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>>Dear Todd,
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>>>As a teacher at a Bible Institute in Bosnia I am looking for a beginner's
>>>Greek grammar to have translated for use when teaching my Intro to
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>>>Languages class.  I understand that Machen's NT Grammar for Beginner's is
>>>public domain and I wondered if you knew where I could find a digitized
>>>version. I have the hard copy but it would save a lot of time if my
>>>translator had a digital version.
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>>HH: Here's part of an older post from B-Greek by Jeff Smelser:
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>>Yes, Machen is in the public domain and is available online  in two graphic
>>image formats. It's also partially available in a "digital facsimile"
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>format
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>>that is in need of much proofreading and correcting.
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>>the graphic image formats are at:
>>http://www.ccel.org/m/machen/greek/tif
>>http://www.ccel.org/m/machen/greek/png
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>>The main page for accessing all three formats is:
>>http://www.ccel.org/m/machen/greek/home.html
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>>Yours,
>>Harold Holmyard
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>>>Thank you for your time,
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>>>Todd Price
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>>>Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina
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