[B-Greek] 1 Cor.16.2

Denise Parkes deniseparkes at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 27 23:15:13 EDT 2007


Yes, another mistake on my part, substituting "each" for "every."  I agree 
that hHMERAN is understood.

However, must MIAN be ordinal?

Is "on one day of every week" a possible translation?

Cheers,
Denise Parkes

>From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
>To: Denise Parkes <deniseparkes at hotmail.com>, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Cor.16.2
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:50:32 -0700 (PDT)
>
>But it's not "each week" since that would need to be κατὰ 
>σάββατον [KATA SABBATON], i.e. σάββατον [SABBATON] would 
>need to be acc whereas here it is gen.  See Acts 18.4 where it has
>
>διελέγετο δὲ ἐν τῇ συναγωγῇ κατὰ πᾶν 
>σάββατον ἔπειθέν τε Ἰουδαίους καὶ 
>Ἕλληνας.
>DIELEGETO DE EN THi SUNAGWGHi KATA PAN SABBATON EPEIQEN TE IOUDAIOUS KAI 
>hELLHNAS
>
>What we have in 1 Cor 16.2 is simply κατὰ [ἡμέραν] μίαν 
>σαββάτου [KATA [[hHMERAN]] MIAN SABBATOU]. I.e. ἡμέραν 
>[hHMERAN] is to be understood.  Which would then be "Every first [day] of 
>the week …"
>
>
>george
>gfsomsel
>
>Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
>learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>defend the truth till death.
>
>- Jan Hus
>_________
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Denise Parkes <deniseparkes at hotmail.com>
>To: gfsomsel at yahoo.com; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:29:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Cor.16.2
>
>
>Yes, KATA is used distributively.   I should have written "on one day of
>each week."  But KATA MIAN SABBATOU still doesn't necessarily specify which
>day of the week, does it?
>
>Cheers,
>Denise Parkes
>
>
> >From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> >To: Denise Parkes <deniseparkes at hotmail.com>, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> >Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Cor.16.2
> >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >No, κατὰ [KATA] is used distributively here.  It doesn't refer to
> >simply one day but every day one.  Cf. its usage in Lk 2.41
> >
> >41 Καὶ ἐπορεύοντο οἱ γονεῖς αὐτοῦ 
>κατʼ
> >ἔτος εἰς Ἰερουσαλὴμ τῇ ἑορτῇ τοῦ
> >πάσχα.
> >
> >KAI EPOREUONTO hOI GONEIS AUTOU KAT' ETOS EIS IEROUSALHM THi hEORTHi TOU
> >PASXA
> >
> >And his parents went EVERY YEAR to Jerusalem for the Feast of Passover.
> >
> >
> >george
> >gfsomsel
> >
> >Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
> >learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> >defend the truth till death.
> >
> >- Jan Hus
> >_________
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Denise Parkes <deniseparkes at hotmail.com>
> >To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:35:26 PM
> >Subject: [B-Greek] 1 Cor.16.2
> >
> >
> >KATA MIAN SABBATOU hEKASTOS hUMWN PAR' hEAUTWi TIQETW QHSAURIZWN hO TI 
>EAN
> >EUODWTAI, hINA MH hOTAN ELQW TOTE LOGEIAI GINWNTAI
> >
> >Gen.1:5: KAI EKALESEN hO QEOS TO FWS hHMERAN KAI TO SKOTOS EKALESEN 
>NUKTA.
> >KAI EGENETO hESPERA KAI EGENETO PRWI, hHMERA MIA
> >
> >Thank you George and Oun for your replies.
> >
> >I can see that hHMERA MIA in Gen.1:5 serves as a clear model of how to
> >express a specific day of the week.  But the structure of KATA MIAN
> >SABBATOU
> >in 1 Cor.16:2 is quite different, so a link between the two seems to be
> >interpretive.
> >
> >So can KATA MIAN SABBATOU in 1 Cor.16:2 be non-specific and mean 
>“on
> >one
> >day of the week"?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Denise Parkes
> >
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