[B-Greek] Mk 1:15 believe 'with the good news'
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Feb 20 05:01:10 EST 2007
I am in accord with George on this matter of (a) the equivalence of
these various formulations with PISTEUW, (b) that its proper sense is
"trust," "be faithful." With regard to the way PISTEUW is translated,
I think that list-members might find illuminating and perhaps
provocative a recent blog by Wayne Leman on his "Better Bibles Blog"
concerning how this verb (verb-phrase) is translated in several
versions in John 2:23-25: http://tinyurl.com/2xyja8
On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:11 PM, George F Somsel wrote:
> We are so addicted to translating PISTEUW as "believe" and
> associating that with an act or mental attitude of assenting to
> some proposition that we sometimes find it difficult to really get
> to the meaning of some expressions. There was another question
> recently involving the word PISTIS which was taken from Greek
> literature and indicated "loyalty" or "faithfulness." I think this
> is more nearly what is indicated by the word PISTEUW. In the case
> of PISTEUW EN TWi EUAGGELIWi I would consider this to intend "trust
> the gospel [and don't forget that EUAGGELION is 'good news']."
>
> george
> gfsomsel
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> Subject: [B-Greek] Mk 1:15 believe 'with the good news'
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>
> Mk 1:15 METANOEITE KAI PISTEUETE EN TW EUAGGELIW
>
> The verb associated with 'good news' is proclaim/preach (as
> EVAGGELIZW). Here in Mk 1:15 it shows up along with PISTEUW + EN.
>
> Now, as I understand the verb PISTEUW appears in the GNT in several
> ways:
> + dative, + EN, + EIS, + EPI
>
> I am not sure whether 'believe the gospel' (or 'believe in the
> gospel') is a common expression in church language (in contrast to
> 'hear' 'accept' the gospel). However, the text itself seems strange
> and its meaning is not clear.
>
> I wonder whether it makes more sense to take EN as instrumental (as
> 'with the good news'; e.g. BAPTIZW EN hUDATI Mt 3:11) to read the text
> in this sense:
>
> "Repent and believe upon receiving the good news."
>
> Here the object of 'believe' is implicit - God, etc. That it is only
> once shown in N.T. here does not help me much.
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Oun Kwon.
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Carl W. Conrad
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