[B-Greek] TARASSW/TARASSOMAI subject-agent affected

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 23 17:47:04 EST 2008


Thank you Carl and Iver,

I have been following your discussion with real interest.


On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Carl Conrad wrote:

> The usage in John 11:33 with transitive active verb combined with a  
> reflexive seems altogether exceptional in that subject-affectedness  
> is clearly indicated, but not in the normal manner.

Searching for classical idioms where an active verb has a subject- 
agent who is affected and this is indicated by a second argument  
(bivalent) I found two potential examples of KATECW in Soph.

Soph El.
1009 Ἀλλ’ ἀντιάζω, πρὶν πανωλέθρους  
τὸ πᾶν
1010 ἡμᾶς τ’ ὀλέσθαι κἀξερημῶσαι  
γένος,
1011 κατάσχες ὀργήν.

1009 ALL' ANTIAZW, PRIN PANWLEQROUS TO PAN
1010 hHMAS T' OLESQAI KAXERHMWSAI GENOS,
1011 KATASCES ORGHN.

In KATASCES ORGHN the subject-agent is Electra who is asked to  
restrain [her] anger/fury.

Soph OC.

874 {ΚΡ.} Οὔτοι καθέξω θυμόν, ἀλλ’ ἄξω  
βίᾳ.
875 κεἰ μοῦνός εἰμι, τόνδε, καὶ γήρᾳ  
βαρύς.

874 KR. OUTOI KAQEXW QUMON, ALL' AXW BIAi.
875 KEI MOUNOS EIMI, TONDE, KAI GHRAi BARUS.

OUTOI KAQEXW QUMON the subject-agent states that he will no longer  
hold back, restrain QUMON.

I studied the BDAG entry for KATECW I but wasn't able to come up with  
a bivalent example were the subject-agent was also the experiencer(?)  
indicated by a second argument e.g . ORGHN, QUMON.

thank you,

Elizabeth Kline







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