[B-Greek] 1Co 11:32 hUPO TOU KURIO - kataphoric or anaphoric?

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 01:41:59 EST 2010


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Iver Larsen <iver_larsen at sil.org> wrote:

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> I think it is easier if you think of ANA as "up" and KATA as "down".
> Anaphora points up on the page to what has already been said,
> kataphora/cataphora points down to what is still coming.
>

Thanks again Iver.  I can see it again in ANABLEPW ('see again' or 'look up'?)

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> I cannot see that English translations go either way. Which do you refer to?
> Some are clear, some are not clear. Those that are not clear, like NIV, may
> be construed in ways not intended by the translators nor by the original
> author of the Greek text. That happens all the time.
>

NIV reads 'When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined' -
this is pretty much clear.  Same in ESV, RSV, NRSV, NET, NLT, etc.
The opposite examples are KJV and some others.
Some combines into one verbal phrase - CEV, GNB.

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>> This case reminds me of Mk 16:9
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> PRWÏ means "early in the morning", and does not refer to the evening or the
> "beginning" of the Jewish day.

Always? Why not about 'early' in a Jewish day. (according to Randall Buth).

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> Are you thinking of Matthew 28:1 where the text is open to interpretation
> because of the unclear word EPIFWSKW?
>

Isn't it possible that word may go either 'dawn at morning' or 'dusk
after sunset'?

The last two points are what I have briefly gleaned from Randall Buth.

Oun Kwon.



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