[B-Greek] Romans 8:17

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Tue Feb 23 21:56:26 EST 2010


This was clearly intended for the list, but doesn't seem to have come through:

From: "Ashley Windus" <ashley at eastsidechurch.org.au>
Date: February 23, 2010 9:14:48 PM EST
To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Romans 8:17


I am very much the beginner with respect to Greek.  However, I have a (probably very basic) question about Romans 8:17
 
eiper sumpaschomen
if, in fact, we suffer with him (NRSV)
if indeed we suffer together [with him] (Lexham)
provided we suffer with him (ESV)
 
Every translation I have read seems to agree that he meaning is: suffer together with him (Christ). Is the connection to Jesus purely contextual?  Is it possible Paul could have meant: suffer together, that is, with one another (and equally, with Christ)?  It seems to me from my very basic understanding that this at least is a possible understanding – that the suffering together refers not just to me suffering along with Christ but us suffering together with one another and with Christ.
 
 
Ashley Windus
 
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