[B-Greek] TINAS in 1 Cor 9:22
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 12 12:39:21 EDT 2011
Perhaps that is so in Polish, but not in Greek. My statement stands.
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: Beata Urbanek <beata.urbanek at op.pl>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 9:33:33 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] TINAS in 1 Cor 9:22
George,
No, suprisingly, the reference is definitely to TINAS. Polish is my motehr
tongue, so I think I understand it quite well (much better than English:)
About PANTWS he writes something else (that it means all ways, all means) and he
omits the word in his translation.
Beata Urbanek
----- Original Message -----
>From: George F Somsel
>To: Beata Urbanek ; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] TINAS in 1 Cor 9:22
>
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>ἐγενόμην τοῖς ἀσθενέσιν ἀσθενής, ἵνα τοὺς ἀσθενεῖς κερδήσω· τοῖς πᾶσιν γέγονα
>πάντα, ἵνα πάντως τινὰς σώσω.
>
>The word πάντως PANTWS (to which I presume reference is made) is not a noun or
>an adjective, but an adverb and would thus better be understood as qualifying
>the verb σώσω SWSW. Note BDAG's entry s.v. πάντως PANTWS:
>
>④expression of lowest possible estimate on a scale of extent, at leastἵνα πάντως
>τινὰς σώσωin order to save at least some 1 Cor 9:22 (though by [any and] all
>means is also prob. here).
> george
>gfsomsel
>
>
>… search for truth, hear truth,
>learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>defend the truth till death.
>
>
>- Jan Hus
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>
>
>
>
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From: Beata Urbanek <beata.urbanek at op.pl>
>To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 8:31:26 AM
>Subject: [B-Greek] TINAS in 1 Cor 9:22
>
>Dear List-members,
>
>I've just been surprised by a commentary on the text.
>One of the Polish scholars tranlates
>hINA PANTWS TINAS SWSW
>as "to save all".
>He explains that TINAS means sort of "each and everyone".
>I looked up TIS in lexicons but couldn't see such a meaning.
>
>Is he right?
>
>Beata Urbanek
>
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>PANTA hINA PANTWS TINAS SWSW.
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