Re: MENEIN in 1 John 2:6

From: JPDow (
Date: Sun Feb 15 1998 - 09:38:14 EST

Benjamin Raymond wrote:

> I found a number of instances in the GNT where MENEI is followed by a word
> beginning with a vowel (albeit only one other time with an omicron in 1 Cor
> 3:14) and plenty more in the Septuagint... with no nu (and no nu's is good
> news!). As for me, I've just never heard of a moveable nu used after this
> ending.
> 2 Questions:
> Would anyone be so kind as to remind me when the moveable nu is an option?

Was there ever a hard and fast rule in ancient Greek (whether Attic
or Koine) that *demanded* when to add the "nu" and when not to? I
have been under the impression that it was always an option.

Additionally, it seems that nu-movable was an option only for the
3rd person plural of the present active indicative (not the 3rd

If it's any help, the textbook for Attic Greek that I am currently
studying for class has this to say about the nu-movable:

    "The third person plural of the present active indicative
    may have nu added when the verb occurs at the end of a
    clause or when it is followed by a word beginning with a
    vowel (or in verse when it is more convenient to the poet to
    add it)" ("Introduction to Attic Greek" by Donald J.
    Mastronarde, pp. 57-58.

Interestingly enough, Mastronarde said nothing about the third person
*singular* (which was what your classmate brought up). So it would
seem (at least from the above) that the word MENEIN is the infinitive
of MENW.

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