[compost_tea] Re: added more food to long bew time lost booming population of flag

From: Tim Wilson <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:13:29 -0000

As I pointed out, you guys appear to not be discussing the microbial nutrie=
nt loop but are fixated (pun intended) on bacterial/archaeal function in th=
e rhyzosphere. This is the stuff of microbial inoculants and not compost te=
as, compost and LCE in my opinion (and logically)

Tim

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Pawlett, Mark" <m.pawlett_at_...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Yes, excellent. I agree with this.
>
> BUT there is an additional complication. In the world of microbiology th=
e soccer player may turn into a violinist but yet phenotypically appear the=
 same in the microscope. In other words the functional genes work differen=
tly in different environments.
>
> The phenotypic appearance does not define the functional or metabolic act=
ivities of microbes.
>
> This is where it is important to consider the species concept and where d=
efinitions of species break down. Using common phrases used here: the "bad =
microbes" can turn to "good microbes" and visa versa. As a microbial ecolo=
gist the terms good and bad microbiology doesn't work.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On=
 Behalf Of Evan Folds
> Sent: 19 April 2011 14:57
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: added more food to long bew time lost booming =
population of flag
>
>
> May I ask what evidence there is for not adding food sources to "finished=
" tea? And may I also ask what defines "finished"?
>
> I understand people to have a wealth of experience looking at microscopes=
, and I respect that, we do as well. But very rarely do I see anyone connec=
t this microscope reality with their effects on growing plants. That's the =
point in the end, right? How are we so sure we know when something is "fini=
shed" when we have no biological baseline of what it "should" be?
>
> For instance, I just got off the phone with a humic acid distributor who =
works globally from Germany. We had a very interesting conversation about h=
umic acids in regards to having no baseline. There is no objective way to s=
ay one is better than the other except results considering it depends on ox=
idization, rate of oxidization, source material, binding sites (COOH, OH), =
fulvic:humic ratio, etc. And all humic molecules are not the same, even the=
 one structured similarly.
>
> This is even more complicated and true with microbes. One cannot measure =
true diversity, or more importantly strength or ability, of microbes under =
a microscope. We're all humans, and one of us may be the most accomplished =
soccer player (N cycler) on the planet, but we cannot tell that through a c=
onversation or by looking at the individual. This ability is discounted whe=
n we look materialistically through a microscope. This "strength and abilit=
y" is one of the factors that defines BioDynamic composts and the organisms=
 associated.
>
> We have used compost tea brewed for over 4 months perpetually by adding h=
umus, catalysts, and food sources daily with spectacular results. Granted, =
it may not be perfect, but, again, what does "perfect" mean if we are not a=
ttaching what we are telling ourselves to the results of growing plants?
>
> Be a farmer, start a garden.
>
> Evan Folds
> Progress Earth
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