[compost_tea] Re: added more food to long bew time lost booming population of flag

From: Tim Wilson <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:19:34 -0000

In other words if the violin player, ex-soccer player is devoured by a musk=
ox; the resulting muskox poo still feeds the tundra.

Tim

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_...> wrote:
>
> As I pointed out, you guys appear to not be discussing the microbial nutr=
ient loop but are fixated (pun intended) on bacterial/archaeal function in =
the rhyzosphere. This is the stuff of microbial inoculants and not compost =
teas, compost and LCE in my opinion (and logically)
>
> Tim
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Pawlett, Mark" <m.pawlett_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Yes, excellent. I agree with this.
> >
> > BUT there is an additional complication. In the world of microbiology =
the soccer player may turn into a violinist but yet phenotypically appear t=
he same in the microscope. In other words the functional genes work differ=
ently in different environments.
> >
> > The phenotypic appearance does not define the functional or metabolic a=
ctivities of microbes.
> >
> > This is where it is important to consider the species concept and where=
 definitions of species break down. Using common phrases used here: the "ba=
d microbes" can turn to "good microbes" and visa versa. As a microbial eco=
logist the terms good and bad microbiology doesn't work.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] =
On Behalf Of Evan Folds
> > Sent: 19 April 2011 14:57
> > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: added more food to long bew time lost boomin=
g population of flag
> >
> >
> > May I ask what evidence there is for not adding food sources to "finish=
ed" tea? And may I also ask what defines "finished"?
> >
> > I understand people to have a wealth of experience looking at microscop=
es, and I respect that, we do as well. But very rarely do I see anyone conn=
ect this microscope reality with their effects on growing plants. That's th=
e point in the end, right? How are we so sure we know when something is "fi=
nished" when we have no biological baseline of what it "should" be?
> >
> > For instance, I just got off the phone with a humic acid distributor wh=
o works globally from Germany. We had a very interesting conversation about=
 humic acids in regards to having no baseline. There is no objective way to=
 say one is better than the other except results considering it depends on =
oxidization, rate of oxidization, source material, binding sites (COOH, OH)=
, fulvic:humic ratio, etc. And all humic molecules are not the same, even t=
he one structured similarly.
> >
> > This is even more complicated and true with microbes. One cannot measur=
e true diversity, or more importantly strength or ability, of microbes unde=
r a microscope. We're all humans, and one of us may be the most accomplishe=
d soccer player (N cycler) on the planet, but we cannot tell that through a=
 conversation or by looking at the individual. This ability is discounted w=
hen we look materialistically through a microscope. This "strength and abil=
ity" is one of the factors that defines BioDynamic composts and the organis=
ms associated.
> >
> > We have used compost tea brewed for over 4 months perpetually by adding=
 humus, catalysts, and food sources daily with spectacular results. Granted=
, it may not be perfect, but, again, what does "perfect" mean if we are not=
 attaching what we are telling ourselves to the results of growing plants?
> >
> > Be a farmer, start a garden.
> >
> > Evan Folds
> > Progress Earth
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