If the oil separates from the emulsion it is has been heated and is no long=
er "hydrolysate".
I don't have any reason to dispute this but it is something I learned at El=
aine Ingham's week long intensive workshop that I attended this summer.
I wouldn't argue the fact but I choose to believe Elaine. She works on fact=
s not hype or feelings.
If you think that a jug of hydrolysate can sit on a shipping dock in 110 de=
gree weather in Trinity County in the summer time and not heat up sufficien=
tly to destroy what was previously preserved through careful temp controlle=
d manufacture, you're fooling yourself.
Once the oil separates from the solution it is no longer by definition "hyd=
rolysate".
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From: Matthew Graeff <phishphan12_at_comcast.net>
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re: opinions on fish hydrolysate brands?
I don't think the fish can be heated enough storage or shipping to go from =
hydrolysate to emulsion.
What I do know is that fish hydrolysate in any form (jug or drum) needs to =
be mixed throughly before pumping or pouring to get the right "mix" of oil =
and fish.
Matt
On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Bewley wrote:
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>I've been using the Eco Hydro-hydrolsate, the company is not far from me o=
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>I don't have the jug in front of me so my question is..... Are you talking=
about their "hydrolysate" product or is the product fish "emulsion". Usual=
ly emulsion is blended fish and is used as a fertilizer while hydrolysate, =
cold processed preserves oil and enzymes and is used for brewing biology.
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>If you are speaking of hydrolysate, something I learned this year is that =
if it is heated up in storage or transportation and the oil separates from =
the emulsion you now have a layer of fish oil on top of fish emulsion. It i=
s no longer hydrolysate. I see the stuff they have on the shelf separated m=
ore often than not and try to explain it to the store employees but they lo=
ok at me like I'm crazy and they don't ever do anything about it.
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act them directly for sales. Or order it during the winter months when ther=
e is less chance of heat separation.
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> From: Jim <jim_at_treesolutions.com>
>To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 7:35 AM
>Subject: [compost_tea] Re: opinions on fish hydrolysate brands?
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>Hello,
>We have been using this product for approximately three years and can endo=
rse the quality and are happy with the results we get. We use it to brew te=
as and as an ingredient in our extract applications. We plan to try it as a=
foliar application this spring.
>Jim
>--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Jerry G <jguizar_at_...> wrote:
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>> On 12/2/2011 3:44 PM, l4177312 wrote:
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>> > Does anyone have an opinion on the Eco-Hydro Fish Liquid Fertilizer.
>> > http://www.econutrients.com/product_fish.html
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>> > I can buy it locally, so I was wondering if a 'low-heat' process is as=
effective as a cold processed hydrolysate.
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>> > Thanks
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>> I never used that, but I did pick up a gallon from Earthfort
>> on sale last month. I see they're currently on backorder now.
>> http://www.earthfort.com/products/supplies/fish-hydrolysate.html
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>> I like the results I've seen so far.
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>> Jerry
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