Re: [compost_tea] Re: vortex tea brewer

From: Tad Hussey <tadhussey_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:48:07 -0800 (PST)

Steve,

Thanks for joining the conversation.  You know that I hold a lot of th=
e work and education you've done in the highest esteem.  I'd like to s=
ee that study, and will have to read more on the subject.  Similar to =
Tim, I struggle with unsupported claims and people who are so quick to dism=
iss "science."  I've listed what I see as the merits of Biodynamic Far=
ming in previous posts, and have no bone to pick on that subject. 


In the area where I some some knowledge (ACT), I've heard all sorts of clai=
ms ranging from instant compost teas, ACT that can be refrigerated, perpetu=
al brews where people can brew continuously (without a microscope), and man=
y others.  With many of these claims, I'm given some flowery language,=
 but very little substance in regards to science or direct microscopy.

My whole point in posting that original link was not to say that vortex bre=
wers are bad, but rather that there are many claims regarding water that ar=
e scientifically unproven, and until I see otherwise I think that a convent=
ional brewer and vortex brewer providing the same DO levels and extraction,=
 will provide a very similar microbial profile in ACT.

Cheers,
Tad



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 From: steved3602002 <steved_at_ipa.net>
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:57 PM
Subject: [compost_tea] Re: vortex tea brewer
 

 
Tad and all -

The retired chemist you refer to is a skeptic
of alternative water concepts and treatment
technologies.

Sceptics websites are a great place to get started
on what you should be checking into for holistic
health and alternative agriculture.

On the other hand, an old rule of thumb when
you venture into alternative technologies
is the use of discernment.

For that reason, I will read skeptics websites
with an open mind as a reality check. Do the
concepts and technologies have merit, are they
marketing bunk, is the topic presented accurate
or is it confusd, do the concepts and technologies
merit further research and discovery on your
own part.

Since there are now dozens of journals and
books that deal with various aspects of
alternative agriculture and holistic and
complementary and alternative medicine, there
is substantial authoritative information to
draw upon when venturing into topics like
homeopathy, subtle energy, bio-resonance,
vortex water, evaluation methods, etc.

One of the first major science books in
agriculture to look into biotransmutation
and related alternative topics was "Alternative
Methods in Agriculture", edited by R. Boeringa,
published in 1980 by Elsevier Scientific
Publishing Co., essentially the proceedings
of a scientific symposium held in the mid-1970s.

Vortex water, scalar energy, copper coils,
magnetism and other energetic technologies
are part of modern day homepathics, alternative
agriculture, and holistic medicine for
a reason.

A few months back I ame across an on-farm compost
tea study where SFI lab data showed greater biology
in compost teas brewed with scalar energy devices
compared to plain water, where all other conditions
for compost, ingredients, and brewers were held
the same. It was a simple study, but based on
the lab results and the microscopic pictures of
biology, it showed there is merit to energetically
enhanced water and biological response.

Steve Diver

"Tad" <tadhussey_at_...> wrote:
>
> For those interested in reading more about the "science" behind vortexes.
> http://www.chem1.com/CQ/wonkywater.html
>
> The guy has a bit of a conversational style of writing, but I've found hi=
s information to be sound. There are many claims regarding water that don'=
t hold up under scientific scrutiny.
>


 

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