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Re: The Limits To Growth



In <59stge$7bm@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> jwas@ix.netcom.com(jw)
writes: 
>
>In <59qbgl$ocg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> tamco1@ix.netcom.com(Thomas A
>McGraw) writes: 
>>
>>In <59l0fh$8a8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> jwas@ix.netcom.com(jw)
>>writes: 
>>>>   Are you saying that it is possible for polluting cars to be
>>>>beneficial? 
>>>
>>>Certainly: *all* cars are polluting, and nevertheless
>>>beneficial - or else why do people buy them?
>>>                                                                    

>
>>    Are you saying that fuel effecient technology should not be
>>introduced until it's better for the buyers? 
>
>But fuel efficient technology *is* better for
>the buyers. Other pollution-reducing technology
>may not be, but this is.
>
>>Do you make a distinction
>>between environmental degregation and what's good for the buyer? The
>>car & oil industries do...and you. The way it works is, you have
green
>>technology compliance forced down your throats to prevent you from
>>poaching.                                                            

>
>Yes - this is a negative-sum game,
>a game of fear and hostility, coercion and evasion,
>lobbying and propaganda.
>On the other hand, improving fuel efficiency
>can be a positive-sum game: good for the driver,
>good for the breather;  based on common
>interest, on willing cooperation. 
>
    You are beginning to sound like an environmentalist; a deception.  
    Does "common interest" include the unborn?                         
    The "driver/breather", "the common interest", the environment, it
doesn't matter, green technology has never willingly been incorporated
if it is presumed to negatively impact QUARTERLY profits.              
    After the degradation becomes too great, your type is dragged by
the ear kicking and screaming from the site, chainsaws in both hands.
That's my kind "willing cooperation". That's the only language profit
poachers understand.                                                   
                                                                       
                                  


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