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Re: The Limits To Growth
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Subject: Re: The Limits To Growth
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From: bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK )
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Date: 14 Nov 1996 17:37:39 GMT
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Article: 15943 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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David Lloyd-Jones (dlj@inforamp.net) wrote:
: brshears@whale.st.usm.edu (Harold Brashears) posted this .sig:
: >"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic
: >statements, and make little mention of the doubts we may have.
: >Each of us has to find a balance between being effective and
: >being honest."
: > - Steven Schneider, proponent of CFC-banning.
: > "Our Fragile Earth", Discover, Oct. 1987. pg 47
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: I'm glad Harold has brought attention to this stream of
: environmentalist thought. It highlights the genuine contempt which
: many soi-disant environmentalists hold for the rest of us.
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: Here in Canada there has been a recent scandal when Farley Mowat,
: boozer, happy-go-lucky, nationalist agitator, and general hail-fellow
: well-met, confessed to fiction in his supposedly factual book on
: wolves.
:
: The book, a marvellous tale if only because of his story of his
: marking off territory by pissing on rocks, wolf style, when he lived
: in the wild to study them, exculpated wolves from attacks on caribou,
: said that they lived on mice, basically, and that caribou bones were
: only found around human settlements. All three of these are lies.
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: It may or may not be the case that human over-hunting are a threat to
: the caribou -- but this question has been obscured for the next year
: or so, until Mowat's dishonesty works its way through the system and
: through the public's consciousness. In the meantime, if there is harm
: being done to the caribou, Mowat is the person responsible for it.
Perhaps, then, you can offer a principled discussion of the scientific
literature on ozone and the effect on it of CFCs.
--
Mach's gut!
Bruce Scott, Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik, bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de
Remember John Hron: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/
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