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Re: The Limits To Growth
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Subject: Re: The Limits To Growth
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From: dlj@inforamp.net (David Lloyd-Jones)
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Date: 16 Nov 1996 02:12:03 GMT
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Article: 16014 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK ) wrote:
>David Lloyd-Jones (dlj@inforamp.net) wrote:
>: Which reminds me: if we've got a population surplus, howcome the price
>: of labour is going up _everywhere_?
>
>In the Thai toy industry, it is going down, due to competition from
>China. At least that was the case at the end of 1994. China has
>hundreds of millions of itinerant surplus laborers.
This word "everywhere" is a great troll for instructive exceptions,
innit? Anyway, I stand corrected, though not on Thailand. Toy
assemblers will just move over to the next expanding industry, and
Chinese peasants will start oving up pretty soon.
>Labor cost has also dropped significantly in both the US and UK, due to
>erosion of social protection. At least that is true for people who
>produce things. I don't know about the service industry, but the
>anecdotal bits I hear from the US are not inspiring of hope.
Here I stand corrected, and it's a fun example: America does not have
a population crisis in anybody's books. The white working class,
whose incomes were dropping in real terms for the decade ending second
quarter '96, are not even breeding at replacement rates.
-dlj.
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