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Re: The Limits To Growth
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Subject: Re: The Limits To Growth
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From: bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK )
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Date: 16 Nov 1996 18:42:30 GMT
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Article: 16044 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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David Lloyd-Jones (dlj@inforamp.net) wrote:
: bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce Scott TOK ) wrote:
: >Labor cost has also dropped significantly in both the US and UK, due to
: >erosion of social protection. At least that is true for people who
: >produce things. I don't know about the service industry, but the
: >anecdotal bits I hear from the US are not inspiring of hope.
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: Here I stand corrected, and it's a fun example: America does not have
: a population crisis in anybody's books. The white working class,
: whose incomes were dropping in real terms for the decade ending second
: quarter '96, are not even breeding at replacement rates.
Nice to see you admit that you trolled. Anyway, the US labor force is
in fact expanding... birthrate plus immigration is over replacement, and
birth rate alone (last I looked it was 1.9/couple) is pretty close by
itself. Don't forget what demographic momentum will do with a birthrate
close to 2.0/couple.
Your focus on the white working class may be of some interest.
Elaboration is welcome.
--
Mach's gut!
Bruce Scott, Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik, bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de
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