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Re: The Limits To Growth



Mason A. Clark wrote:
> > Now a reaction has set in: many people have looked at what went on
> > under the aegis of "environmentalism" over the last thirty years, and
> > found much of it lacking.
> >
> Where the hell have you been living these last thirty years?  If it weren't
> for the environmentalist who started controlling smog more than thirty
> years ago, California would now be unlivable..
.
But now you are saying man must go so nature can live.  You have went as 
far off as to be a haszardous to mans health as the pollution was before. 
Until the 'middle' ground is achieved, we are going to have this fight.  
Almost all pollution is caused indirectly.  The air in Cal was polluted 
by cars burning 'cheap' fuel.  'cleaner burning' fuel cost more to 
produce and so you wouldn't buy it.  Riding a bus didn't fit your 
lifestyl, so you drove 50 miles to work.  You wanted to 'project' class 
when you went to your job interview and so 'had' to have a Caddy.  
Madison Ave created most of the problem by creating a socity that had to 
have 'status' symbels instead of essencials.
Now we have a class of people that is sitting in a wood house telling us 
not to cut trees, buying their food at the supermarket and telling us how 
to farm, and ect.  Get real!  Show us how by example!  Especially how to 
feed our familys when the morgage is half the income.  If this wasn't 
empty retheric, the Earth First and Greenpeace would be the ones 
promoting and operating the abortion clinics and other population control 
clinics.  Hugging a tree or kissing a owl's ass is not going to save 
nothing.  Developing an alternitive that is viable will.
Rewarding responsible stewardship is the best way to do it.  Tax those 
who damage the world and give incentives to those who improve it.  BUT 
you also have to remember that TODAYS BEST ANSWER may be TOMORROWS 
PROBLEM.  Only by keeping a open mind and continuously researcing will we 
gain. 
I was an envoirenmentalist long before most of you got on the wagon and 
still am.  Most of you remind me of a visitor that came to the ranch one 
time.  He got carrying on about how wonderful it was to can some of the 
fruit from his garden so as tto have it later.  He'd canned up 16 pints. 
I asked the neighbor lady,who was politly listening to his spiel, how 
much she'd canned so far as the season was about 2/3 over. She replied, 
"600 quarts."
Dale Wagner





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