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srImathE rAmanujAya namah

dear bhAgavathAs,

It is really an interesting debate that is going on re: "sAththivika 
ahankAram". Though, smt. sumithra varadarAjan's and others' posts 
seem convincing, it somehow does not seem right that something 
termed as 'sAththvika ahankAram" can be part of our sampradAyam.

where embAr said "illai enakku edhir, illai enakku edhir", adiyEn 
has always understood that statement to be the ultimate statement in 
praising Ramanuja, rather than svami embAr being proud somehow of 
himself. My understanding is that "As the beautiful vadivazhagu of 
emperumAnAr is in my mind, there is no comparison to me" (or there 
are no virOdhis for me). Please note that embAr does not say "Since 
I have the beautiful vadivazhagu of emperumAnAr in my mind!"; it is 
clear that the vadivazhagu of emperumAnAr is present in embAr's mind 
only because of emperumAnAr's grace. So, I have difficulty 
attributing any "ahankAram" - good, or bad to this statement.

Similarly, for "nin thanakkum kuRippaakil kaRkalaam kaviyin poruL 
thaanE", I have always taken it to mean that AzhvAr wonders at 
emperumAn's grace in which He has provided AzhvAr with the the most 
perfect knowledge. Especially, in the previous pAsurams, AzhvAr 
marvels that he saw emperumAn (kaNdu koNdEnE) with all kinds of 
attributes in thiru-k-kaNNamangai. In the last pAsuram he starts 
with "kaNNamangaiyuL kaNdu koNdEn enRu kaadhalaal kalikanRi uRai 
seidha".. Does this not mean that thirumangai AzhvAr is saying that 
those who recite these pAsurams will go to mEl ulagaNgaL not because 
kaliyan said so, but because kaliyan was blessed by perumAL such 
that he saw perumAL at thiru-k-kaNNamangai, and he described that?. 
Doesn't this mean that the grace that perumAL showered on kaliyan at 
thiru-k-kaNNa mangai was so great and abundant, and the resulting 
knowledge is so pure that kaliyan marvels at His grace - "Oh Lord, 
the truth be said, if You desired, even You can learn the meanings 
of these words from me"?

If we say that AzhvAr/AchArya had "sAththivika ahankAram", does this 
not mean that for that moment when they composed/sang the line which 
we say denotes sAththivika ahankAra, they were thinking of 
themselves? Can our AchAryAs/AzhvArs EVER think of themselves in 
this manner? Did they not completely immerse themselves in our Lord, 
and hence, is not everything they say ONLY praising/marvelling about 
our Lord? (except in cases where they are in the mode of "koovi 
koLLum kaaalam innum kuRugaadho? - even here, they cannot bear the 
separation)

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE SaraNam.
adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan,
varadhan






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