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Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

Dear Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan,

Smt Sheela Belur has already addressed your query from
Pillai Lokacharyar's Mumukshuppadi.

As she pointed out this is an important concept.

The two states you have mentioned are sEshatvam and 
pAratantriyam.

While sEshatvam is no doubt the true nature of the 
soul, it is pAratantriyam that is given a higher 
status. pAratantriyam is letting Him dictate every 
thing - including the destruction of sEshatvam.

The examples for these are Lakshmana and Bharata.
Lakshmana practised sEshatvam. When Sri Rama asked 
him to stay back in Ayodhya, as He prepared to leave 
for the forest, Lakshmana refused to give up his 
sEshatvam ("aham sarvam karishyAmi"). When Sri Rama
asked Bharata to give up his pleas to have Rama 
return to Ayodhya and also asked him to rule in His
stead, Bharata immediately followed that.

It is to highlight this greatness of Bharata, that 
Rama asks the question "Will all brothers be like 
Bharata?" to Lakshmana himself, when Lakshmana 
wonders that brothers Vali and Sugreeva could fight 
each other.

Amongst the ten Azhvars, sEshatvam was practised by
nine azhvars, while pAratantriyam was practised by
Periyazhvar. Losing his svarUpam of being a sEsha 
bhUtan, and forgetting His sEshi bhAvam, Azhvar 
sings for His well being ("pallANdu") - "thAn 
azhigilum avan uyarththiyai/bhOgaththai vENduvadhu".

Azhvar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan


--- Lakshmi Narasimhan <nrusimhann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Sriman Vishnu / Bhagavathaas,
> I have a small doubt. As I was reading this post I came
> across 
> something like a paradox, regarding SEshatvam. We
> understand
> (vaishnavites) that we all are the servants of the lord.
> SEshatvam is 
> an eternal property that exists, whether we realise it or
> not is what 
> is a different issue. Now, in a situation where the lord
> demands that 
> HE wants to be a servant of us, we being a servant of HIM
> already, a) 
> Do we just obey HIS orders and let him be our servant OR
> b) as we are 
> HIS servants and want to stick to SEshatvam, just ignore
> his 
> happiness of wanting to be our servant? This confuses me.
> ...


                
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